Re: collective.developermanual is now on plone.org

Alexander Limi <limi-z4DKO/[email protected]>
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Indeed. Ask on plone-dev what people would be most comfortable with. My
guess (hope? ;) is:

   - Manual maintained in SVN, by Plone Committers (as it's easy to get
   commit rights, I don't see this as being fundamentally different from
   putting it in the Collective, and solves the ownership/licensing issue),
   - Should be an official front-and-center manual in the docs area,
   - Maintained as part of a Plone release (meaning, we can fork it for
   Plone 4, etc when needed)


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Anne Bowtell <[email protected]
> wrote:

>  + 1
>
> I vote for whatever will get the developer documentation written and
> maintained most effectively.
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 27/01/2010 18:40, Veda Williams wrote:
>
> My 2 cents here is that I am not a developer, but it would be worth pulling
> in the core developers to see what their feelings are about sphinx vs.
> Plone. Whoever is most likely to contribute should have their vote weighed
> more in this decision...
>
> And I agree, work-o-cracy is probably the way to go here.
>
> As a suggestion, I see no reason why the manuals page could not be updated
> (perhaps by hand) to point to the KB manual. That way it’s available in both
> placed and editable by anyone.
>
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> On 1/27/10 7:40 AM, "Israel Saeta Pérez" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>
> 2010/1/27 Dylan Jay <dylan-Q+/Sk2sTzaxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
>
> Hi,
>
> The idea is to have one developer manual right? Otherwise it's going to be
> confusing where to put what.
>
>
> Actually I'm not sure of this at all. Manuals and stuff in the KB can
> coexist. Only the policies for the two areas are different, and we
> explicitly agreed on the split specially because of the different policies
> available for choice.
>
>
>  The way I see it we have two potential contenders of the "one" plone
> development manual, the existing plone.org <http://plone.org>  manual and
> the new collective manual. Each has a different update process but both are
> trying to be the same thing.
>
> I'm not sure what the process is for making this decision. Are there still
> documentation team meetings where stuff is decided. Is this open for debate?
> Anyone know?
>
>
> We still have an Editors Team which should ideally be responsible of making
> the decisions, but in practice it has so few members that I think we will
> have to apply a work-o-cracy: the people who works (or have worked) decide.
> This includes, in my opinion, most of the editors and Veda, Steve, Anne
> Botwell, Kamon, John Stahl, Alex, Mikko, Martin and you among others.
>
>  Hopefully I've answered Israel's questions about structure and quality of
> the collective documentation further down. The options I can think of are:
>
> a) Let both manuals exist for a couple of months side by side in the
> manuals area and then decide which to keep after that. Basically experiment
> with the update process and see what produces better content and which
> contributors and readers prefer.
>
> b) Let both manuals exist for a couple of months, one in manuals section,
> one in kb, and then decide which to keep after that
>
>
> The manuals area is the manuals area because of its policies. As I've
> already said in my previous email, the collective.developermanual needs to
> live in the KB if we want to respect these policies. So the only valid
> option above would be (b).
>
> The rest of options involve deciding now and I'd prefer to live with both
> for some time, since I'm not sure at all of which one will work best. IMO
> it's better and easier to try and see.
>
> -- israel
>
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