Re: kb -> c.developermanual

Dylan Jay <dylan-Q+/Sk2sTzaxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:50:35 +1000
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On 09/07/2011, at 12:25 AM, Alex Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/8/11 4:21 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
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>>
>> On 8 Jul 2011, at 08:24, Dylan Jay<dylan-Q+/Sk2sTzaxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>  wrote:
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>>> On 08/07/2011, at 5:15 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 Jul 2011, at 02:02, Dylan Jay<dylan-Q+/Sk2sTzaxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/07/2011, at 11:39 AM, Alex Clark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/19/11 7:36 AM, Dylan Jay wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's lots of links in the collective developers manual to KB
>>>>>>> articles. Is there any reason not to just import those documents
>>>>>>> directly into the manual and remove the KB article?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll state the obvious: because it may offend the KB article author. I
>>>>>> suspect you'd need to contact the author directly and ask where they'd
>>>>>> prefer their article to live.
>>>>>
>>>>> seems a shame as where we really want to go is non-repeated
>>>>> documentation.
>>>>> but I guess you're right, not worth coming up with a process until we
>>>>> get manual publishing working.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: we've still got a "mess" on our hands wrt to collective docs.
>>>>>> I am
>>>>>> hoping to clean up and automate the inclusion of c-docs in plone.org
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> soon as someone from the board replies to this ticket:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/11771
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now we have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Out of date c-docs on plone.org/documentation (because no one
>>>>>> understands the upload process[1]). I'm now OK with fixing this
>>>>>> (i.e. I
>>>>>> know how to do it).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to fix any coding issues with the funnelweb import. Last
>>>>> time I tried it was working.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Out of date c-docs on collective-docs.plone.org because your recent
>>>>>> changes added a Sphinx module that does not exist on deus (includedocs
>>>>>> IIRC).
>>>>>
>>>>> :) sorry about that. But will be worth it if all goes to plan and we
>>>>> can kick start core devs into documenting their own work.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I am not terribly interested in fixing deus[2], I've recently
>>>>>> considered moving c-docs to github and publishing them to
>>>>>> readthedocs.org (which moo has +1'd). But I still need to test.
>>>>>
>>>>> So replace collective-docs.plone.org with readthedocs? I think that's
>>>>> a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> +1, though we should link back to plone.org/documentation for more docs.
>>>
>>> +1 on linking back to plone.org/documentation.
>>>
>>> BTW, Alex wasn't suggesting removing the manual from plone.org/documentation. Just that he prefers not to read it there.
>>
>> I know. But having it on another plone.org subdomain is really confusing and sends the wrong message. Syndicating to readthedocs is a nice idea, and does not send such a mixed message.
>
>
> +1. So to clarify collective-docs.plone.org should redir to
> plone.org/documentation… or leave it the way it is redir'ing to
> readthedocs.org.

Redir to readthedocs since people expect a sphinx layout.

But I would like to fix the issue of many many names for that manual.
Can we just merge the two plone developers manuals and call it that?



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