Re: New install add-ons tutorial needs your love

On 04/09/2011, at 6:08 AM, John Schinnerer <john-/Gao9/[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 09/03/2011 10:32 AM, David Glick wrote:
>> On 9/3/11 10:03 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:
>>> Hey D,
> ...
>>> Also I think we should probably teach people how to pin the result of their
>>> build (using buildout.dumppickedversions) to make sure it's safe to run in
>>> the future.
>
> +1 on that. Back when I had to figure this out (pinning versions etc.),
> it was not presented up front, and not knowing about it could result in
> hours of wasted time, DOA buildouts from one little change, etc.
>
>>> I think buildout must be fixed so that it would do it by itself. This
>>> is something computers should do for us, not we doing it for
>>> computers.
>>>
>> Hmm, I'm not sure how to make it more automatic. You don't want to
>> record the versions until you know they work, and you don't know that
>> until you've started up Zope and/or run tests.
>
> I'm not sure how either. However +1 on the idea of having buildout be
> "smarter" or more helpful to the user about this, somehow.
>
> My only idea at the moment is to have buildout.dumppickedversion be
> built in rather than something that has to be added (and found out about
> in the first place).
> Why would I *not* want that information readily available, even if I
> don't always use it?

If newest=false was default then it would be less of an issue.



>
> cheers,
> John S.
>
>
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