Re: Annotation Services?

Sounds Great.  I was basically checking in to find out if this idea was  
dead in the water.  The ZAnnt project doesn't look too active (I think  
it was last updated 2 years back), and while Amaya clients keep coming  
out, I didn't know how committed they were to the Annotea spec.

At the same time, a the Annotea spec is a good jumping off point, even  
if its not widely adopted (yet).  I think javascript and css have  
reached a level of sophistication where we could pull off a decent  
client implementation without a special browser.

I would imagine that there might also be some server-side elements to  
the client -- such as a place where users could configure their  
annotation servers, and store their authentication information.  This  
would be part of the client product, and could take advantage of  
Plone's infrastructure For example, this info could be in a users  
profile, but it might be nice to have some site wide configuration as  
well.

We are very interested in seeing this project move forward.   I just  
started working at a University and it seems that a great deal of tech  
work involves getting annotations working on various projects (image  
annotations, video annotations, etc).  I am planning on attending the  
Plone conference too -- will there be a spring before/after?  If not,  
we can still discuss this idea further there.

Best Regards,
Jonah

On Jul 1, 2004, at 7:47 AM, Nate Aune wrote:

> I revisited this idea with Alexander Limi at the EuroPython conference  
> last month, and what we talked about is that there needs to be some  
> sort of javascript-based front-end to the Annotation server that would  
> be implemented as a Plone add-on product.
>
> The backend server, ZAnnot, is already developed but currently  
> requires a 3rd party client program such as annozilla (for Mozilla),  
> and no such client that I know of exists for Internet Explorer or Mac  
> users.
>
> That is why it's important to develop a solution in javascript that is  
> cross-browser / cross-platform.
>
> I think this idea has great potential, but so far no one has stepped  
> up to the plate to develop and/or sponsor it. Any takers?
>
> Alexander also suggested earlier that such a product would be highly  
> suited for a sprint, so if someone wants to organize one (perhaps at  
> the upcoming Plone conference in September), that might be an  
> opportune time to get an initial product developed.
>
> Nate
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject:	[Plone-educational] Annotation Services?
> Hi,
>
> I posed this question on plone-dev with no response so I thought I  
> would
> try it here, where the thread was discussed a while ago.
>
> I am wondering if anyone is still interested in exploring the
> possibility of integrating annotation services within plone - ie
> developing a annotea client which runs in an ordinary browser (perhaps
> using sarrisa, or even within flash).
>
> The idea has been floated in the past, but seems to have trailed off...
>   Has this idea been abandoned?  Did it prove unfeasible, or did it  
> just
> fade away unexplored?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonah
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/
> 586/match=annotea
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.educational/183/ 
> match=annotea
>
> From: Nate Aune, Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 18:45:32 +0200 We may want to
> look at an entirely different solution for commenting,
> such as ZAnnot which implements an Annotea server in Zope.
> http://www.zope.org/Members/Crouton/ZAnnot/
>
> Then you can use a tool like Annozila (plug-in for Mozilla), or develop
> a javascript-based client in Plone to make annotations *ON* the page,
> without modifying the page itself.
> http://annozilla.mozdev.org/
>
> From: Alexander Limi, Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:15:36 +0200> -
> Annotation-ServicesRice University has developed a standards-compliant
> annotation server for
> Zope that I would like to integrate into Plone. This task is highly  
> suited
> for a sprint, and is one of the things I would like to propose for the
> sprint too.
> The product provides an annotation server for Zope, implementing the  
> W3C's
> Annotea (URL at end of mail) protocol which allows clients to add
> annotations to web pages without modifying the pages' source.
> Essentially what we need to do is to write a Zope/Plone client to  
> interact
> with this annotation server, so we don't have to rely on the users  
> having
> dedicated Annotation clients installed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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