Re: Fwd: [Evangelism] Good way to scare new users off

Steve McMahon <[email protected]>
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The basic problem here was that the Unified Installer lacked the egg for
the OS X graphical controller. That was a special OS X add on which the
installer activated (on installation) for OS X 10.5 and 10.6. So, the lack
wouldn't show up on anything except a 10.5 or 10.6 machine.

With 10.8 on the horizon, 10.6 will be out-of-date two releases, and I
don't see any point in having the Unified Installer include a special
graphical controller for an out-of-date OS.

So, unless someone screams loudly, I'm going to solve this problem for our
4.2+ by removing the OS X graphical controller from the Unified Installer
kit. It will still install on OS X 10.5 and 10.6, but without the graphical
controller.

Steve (who is still bitter with apple for it's dropping wxPython without
notice).

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Steve McMahon <[email protected]> wrote:

> I know just what the problem is. My error, and I indeed forgot to test on
> OS X. Will fix!
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Érico Andrei <ericof-z4DKO/[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>    Jan Ulrich just sent the email below to the Evangelism list.
>>
>>    I saw the ticket and as I don't have a Snow Leopard machine nearby
>> (mine is back at the office, I'm still in EuroPython), I'd like ask if
>> any of you could replicate the issue.
>>
>> Best,
>> ea
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:     [Evangelism] Good way to scare new users off
>> Date:     Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:36:41 +0200
>> From:     Jan Ulrich Hasecke <juhasecke-gM/[email protected]>
>> To:     [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> are we counting the downloads of UnifiedInstaller packages from plone.org
>> ?
>>
>> If the answer is yes, we now have the number of new users scared off.
>> https://dev.plone.org/ticket/13025
>>
>> I am sorry for this rant, but releasing a UnifiedInstaller which fails
>> to install on Mac OS X is a good way to scare new users off.
>>
>> Is it possible to have a checklist entry (UnifiedInstaller tested by
>> at least three users on each platform) before releasing?
>>
>> We advertise Plone to be easy to install and easy to try out. We can
>> stop doing this if Plone does not install at all.
>>
>> juh
>>
>>

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