Re: Plone 5.0 release date

On 4/26/15 11:44 AM, Steve McMahon wrote:
> Releases are generally announced when we have a critical mass of
> installers available. If we publicize the tagging of a release before
> the installers are ready, we'd spend a lot of time answering "where are
> the installers" questions.


Good point, but that in turn *perfectly* illustrates the problem with 
today's Plone. "Back in the day" you might get a new Products.CMFPlone 
tarball and drop it in your Zope products folder and off you go. We are 
very far from that now, and probably not even in agreement on whether 
that is "good" or "bad" :-)

One thing I don't want to do is brush-away criticisms about announcing & 
promoting releases with a "no installers, sorry" response. There are 
plenty of things we can do to promote Plone the moment a new package 
hits PyPI e.g. point folks to a URL that says "installers are a 
volunteer effort, have a Python package for your buildout in the meantime."


>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Tom Gross
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi
>
>     is there any Plone marketing at all? Even I who is involved in the
>     community recognized by accident there is a Plone 5 beta. No
>     announcement on
>     news://news.gmane.net/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.announce
>     <http://news.gmane.net/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.announce>
>     no news item on Plone.org. Is this something we have to be ashamed of or
>     is this top secret for some elite?
>     I'm afraid Plone will die a quiet OpenSource dead because no one knows
>     about it if communication and marketing is avoided like an ugly worm.
>
>     Just my 2 cent
>     Tom
>
>     Can I help to get the rumor spread and/or to finish Plone 5?
>
>     On 25.04.15 18:36, T. Kim Nguyen wrote:
>      > A cross functional Plone 5 release team is being formed to help
>     with non-development aspects of the release. We will be better able
>     to communicate progress as we get this group going. We are all
>     looking forward to the release!  One way to help would be to sponsor
>     the Foundation at plone.org/donate <http://plone.org/donate> ;)
>      >
>      > Kim
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >> On Apr 25, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Wolfgang Jeltsch
>     <wls580ii-u9ERN231N2QZkvjqreKGLti2O/[email protected]
>     <mailto:wls580ii-u9ERN231N2QZkvjqreKGLti2O/[email protected]>>
>     wrote:
>      >>
>      >> Hi,
>      >>
>      >> are there any estimations about when Plone 5.0 will be released?
>     I am
>      >> looking forward to this. :-)
>      >>
>      >> All the best,
>      >> Wolfgang
>      >>
>      >>
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