Re: buildout: experiances

i did the same procedure on centos 5. i had almost exactly the same  
problems as on macosx:

> i tried and succeeded to install silva on macosx 10.5 (leopard) using
> the buildout feature and the silva-2.0 branch and the base.cfg
> configuration. nonetheless, there were a few small issues, not all of
> them are operation system dependent. bear in mind that i have never
> used buildout before...
>
> - problems accepting certificates: the bin/buildout program is non-
> interactive. therefore, i have no chance to accept the certificates
> from plone.org, codespeak.net, etc. the buildout program just stops
> with an error like
>
>   Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted
>
> to work around this problem, i made a manual svn checkout from those
> domains using a nonexistent path just to accept the certificate
> permanently. i'm sure there is a better way to do this and this could
> probably be included into the buildout program.

same problems (and unprofessional solution)

> - buildout/Silva-2.0/parts/zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf included these
> two lines although these directories were not created by the buildout
> program:
>
>   products /path/to/buildout/Silva-2.0/parts/silva-extra-svn
>   products /path/to/buildout/Silva-2.0/parts/silva-extra-dist

same problems

> - wrong permissions on buildout/Silva-2.0/var. in buildout/Silva-2.0/
> parts/zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf the effective-user is defined to be
> "zope". shouldn't the program then adjust the permissions accordingly?

same problems. but the "zope" user does not exist on a standard  
system; this should be created before setting the permissions.


> - starting zope: what is the login and password for the inituser? when
> creating a zope instance by hand we know it,  but with buildout we
> don't. so i just created a new inituser file.

i did not realize that the login/password of the inituser of zope is  
set in base.cfg so please forget this comment.

> - there is a newer zope version with bug fixes (2.10.5-final).
>
> - pil does not support jpg out-of-the box on macosx (known issue). how
> does one fix certain operating system dependent issues like the jpg
> support on macosx using the buildout system?

when the jpeg libs are installed they are picked up by pil without  
problems.

> - the buildout silva-2.0 directory looks quite messy for a noob;-)
>
> i don't think that having buildout makes the creation of complete
> installers obsolete. buildout cannot be used by people not having
> already installed python and compilers. and i really like to have my
> own installation of python  (version independence, don't break system
> maintenance tools like up2date, yum, etc.).

regards,
marc