Re: silva-dev Digest, Vol 334, Issue 13

Thank you all, it's fun to discover a hidden feature in Silva... Unfortunate
we seem to be having problems with our VPS provider. Very frustrating

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM, <silva-dev-request-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]> wrote:

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>   1. Please help with huge silva (Mallow Geno)
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>   3. Re: Please help with huge silva (Mallow Geno)
>   4. Re: Please help with huge silva (Marc Petitmermet)
>   5. Re: Please help with huge silva (Andy Altepeter)
>   6. Re: Please help with huge silva (Michele Marcionelli)
>   7. Re: Please help with huge silva (Valentim Branquinho)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:43:27 -0400
> From: Mallow Geno <[email protected]>
> Subject: [silva-dev] Please help with huge silva
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> Hello all,
>
> I've run into a wall and I am desperate for answers. I don't know if this
> has anything to do with Silva but if one of you have experience the problem
> before then maybe you can lead me to the right direction. We host Silva in
> Zope on a VPS, our Data.fs file is 2.24Gb in size.
>
> Our VPS keeps crashing and it's making our website unavailable and
> preventing other functions on our server from functioning.
> The crashes are occurring due to memory resource called "privvmpages"
>
> I think that the crashes are of a result of zope and silva, have any of you
> ever encountered this issue?
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> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:49:35 +0200
> From: Kit BLAKE <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [silva-dev] Please help with huge silva
> To: Mallow Geno <[email protected]>
> Cc: silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
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> Mallow,
> 2.24Gb is not large. There are much bigger Data.fs's out there. I
> assume you pack it regularly?
>
> Googling 'privvmpages' returns hits for OpenVZ. Here's one which
> concerns the Drupal CMS:
> http://drupal.org/node/88442
>
> Good luck,
> Kit
>
>
> On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:43, Mallow Geno wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've run into a wall and I am desperate for answers. I don't know if
> > this has anything to do with Silva but if one of you have experience
> > the problem before then maybe you can lead me to the right
> > direction. We host Silva in Zope on a VPS, our Data.fs file is
> > 2.24Gb in size.
> >
> > Our VPS keeps crashing and it's making our website unavailable and
> > preventing other functions on our server from functioning.
> > The crashes are occurring due to memory resource called "privvmpages"
> >
> > I think that the crashes are of a result of zope and silva, have any
> > of you ever encountered this issue?
> > _______________________________________________
> > silva-dev mailing list
> > silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> > https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
>
>
>
> --
> Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:56:12 -0400
> From: Mallow Geno <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [silva-dev] Please help with huge silva
> To: Kit BLAKE <[email protected]>
> Cc: silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
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>
> Ok good, I'm glad to get a confirmation that it is not large, that eases my
> blood pressure. What do you mean by "pack it"?
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Kit BLAKE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Mallow,
> > 2.24Gb is not large. There are much bigger Data.fs's out there. I assume
> > you pack it regularly?
> >
> > Googling 'privvmpages' returns hits for OpenVZ. Here's one which concerns
> > the Drupal CMS:
> > http://drupal.org/node/88442
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Kit
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:43, Mallow Geno wrote:
> >
> >  Hello all,
> >>
> >> I've run into a wall and I am desperate for answers. I don't know if
> this
> >> has anything to do with Silva but if one of you have experience the
> problem
> >> before then maybe you can lead me to the right direction. We host Silva
> in
> >> Zope on a VPS, our Data.fs file is 2.24Gb in size.
> >>
> >> Our VPS keeps crashing and it's making our website unavailable and
> >> preventing other functions on our server from functioning.
> >> The crashes are occurring due to memory resource called "privvmpages"
> >>
> >> I think that the crashes are of a result of zope and silva, have any of
> >> you ever encountered this issue?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> silva-dev mailing list
> >> silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> >> https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "I write things that might be classified as fairy-stories not because I
> wish
> to address children... but because I wish to write this kind of story and
> no
> other."  -J.R.R. Tolkien
>
> ?Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't
> want, to impress people they don't like.? -Will Smith
>
> "When Love and skill work together, expect a masterpiece." -John Ruskin
>
> "A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter
> Gagehot
>
> This one is different from what I expected:
> "If at first you do succeed try not to act surprised. "-I'll have to act on
> this one
>
> "Things turn out the best for people who make the best out of the way
> things
> turn out." -Art Linkletter
>
> "if your efforts are sometimes greeted with indifference, don't lose heart
> -- the sun puts on a wonderful show at daybreak, yet most of the people in
> the audience go on sleeping." - Eda F. Teixeira
>
> "You can't turn back the clock but you can wind it up again." -Bonnie
> Prudden
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:06:10 +0200
> From: Marc Petitmermet <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [silva-dev] Please help with huge silva
> To: Silva Developer <silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <896BE3B4-C913-4070-97FF-1DAF3217B7B3-90OfQqDPK5gfv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
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>
> our data.fs is currently 2.1 gb in size. i should pack it more often;-)
>
> Control Panel > Database Management > main > set the number of days
> you whish to keep and hit the pack button. after packing it will
> probably be less than 500 mb.
>
> regards,
> marc
>
>
> On 23. Jul 2009, at 19:56 Uhr, Mallow Geno wrote:
>
> > Ok good, I'm glad to get a confirmation that it is not large, that
> > eases my blood pressure. What do you mean by "pack it"?
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Kit BLAKE <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > Mallow,
> > 2.24Gb is not large. There are much bigger Data.fs's out there. I
> > assume you pack it regularly?
> >
> > Googling 'privvmpages' returns hits for OpenVZ. Here's one which
> > concerns the Drupal CMS:
> > http://drupal.org/node/88442
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Kit
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:43, Mallow Geno wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've run into a wall and I am desperate for answers. I don't know if
> > this has anything to do with Silva but if one of you have experience
> > the problem before then maybe you can lead me to the right
> > direction. We host Silva in Zope on a VPS, our Data.fs file is
> > 2.24Gb in size.
> >
> > Our VPS keeps crashing and it's making our website unavailable and
> > preventing other functions on our server from functioning.
> > The crashes are occurring due to memory resource called "privvmpages"
> >
> > I think that the crashes are of a result of zope and silva, have any
> > of you ever encountered this issue?
> > _______________________________________________
> > silva-dev mailing list
> > silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> > https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "I write things that might be classified as fairy-stories not
> > because I wish to address children... but because I wish to write
> > this kind of story and no other."  -J.R.R. Tolkien
> >
> > ?Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they
> > don't want, to impress people they don't like.? -Will Smith
> >
> > "When Love and skill work together, expect a masterpiece." -John
> > Ruskin
> >
> > "A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." -
> > Walter Gagehot
> >
> > This one is different from what I expected:
> > "If at first you do succeed try not to act surprised. "-I'll have to
> > act on this one
> >
> > "Things turn out the best for people who make the best out of the
> > way things turn out." -Art Linkletter
> >
> > "if your efforts are sometimes greeted with indifference, don't lose
> > heart -- the sun puts on a wonderful show at daybreak, yet most of
> > the people in the audience go on sleeping." - Eda F. Teixeira
> >
> > "You can't turn back the clock but you can wind it up again." -
> > Bonnie Prudden
> > <ATT00001.txt>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:08:40 -0500
> From: Andy Altepeter <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [silva-dev] Please help with huge silva
> To: <silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <200907231308.40712.aaltepet-YIB6m0ZoJ8U3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> On Thursday 23 July 2009 01:06:10 pm Marc Petitmermet wrote:
> > our data.fs is currently 2.1 gb in size. i should pack it more often;-)
> since we're all comparing, ours is automatically packed monthly, and is
> nearly
> 13 GB packed.
> >
> > Control Panel > Database Management > main > set the number of days
> > you whish to keep and hit the pack button. after packing it will
> > probably be less than 500 mb.
> >
> > regards,
> > marc
> >
> > On 23. Jul 2009, at 19:56 Uhr, Mallow Geno wrote:
> > > Ok good, I'm glad to get a confirmation that it is not large, that
> > > eases my blood pressure. What do you mean by "pack it"?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Kit BLAKE <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > Mallow,
> > > 2.24Gb is not large. There are much bigger Data.fs's out there. I
> > > assume you pack it regularly?
> > >
> > > Googling 'privvmpages' returns hits for OpenVZ. Here's one which
> > > concerns the Drupal CMS:
> > > http://drupal.org/node/88442
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > > Kit
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:43, Mallow Geno wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I've run into a wall and I am desperate for answers. I don't know if
> > > this has anything to do with Silva but if one of you have experience
> > > the problem before then maybe you can lead me to the right
> > > direction. We host Silva in Zope on a VPS, our Data.fs file is
> > > 2.24Gb in size.
> > >
> > > Our VPS keeps crashing and it's making our website unavailable and
> > > preventing other functions on our server from functioning.
> > > The crashes are occurring due to memory resource called "privvmpages"
> > >
> > > I think that the crashes are of a result of zope and silva, have any
> > > of you ever encountered this issue?
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > silva-dev mailing list
> > > silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> > > https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "I write things that might be classified as fairy-stories not
> > > because I wish to address children... but because I wish to write
> > > this kind of story and no other."  -J.R.R. Tolkien
> > >
> > > ?Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they
> > > don't want, to impress people they don't like.? -Will Smith
> > >
> > > "When Love and skill work together, expect a masterpiece." -John
> > > Ruskin
> > >
> > > "A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." -
> > > Walter Gagehot
> > >
> > > This one is different from what I expected:
> > > "If at first you do succeed try not to act surprised. "-I'll have to
> > > act on this one
> > >
> > > "Things turn out the best for people who make the best out of the
> > > way things turn out." -Art Linkletter
> > >
> > > "if your efforts are sometimes greeted with indifference, don't lose
> > > heart -- the sun puts on a wonderful show at daybreak, yet most of
> > > the people in the audience go on sleeping." - Eda F. Teixeira
> > >
> > > "You can't turn back the clock but you can wind it up again." -
> > > Bonnie Prudden
> > > <ATT00001.txt>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > silva-dev mailing list
> > silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> > https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:03:42 +0200
> From: Michele Marcionelli <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [silva-dev] Please help with huge silva
> To: Mallow Geno <[email protected]>
> Cc: silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> Message-ID: <5724A450-7408-4045-90F4-A2D9423DB2E5-8RCmIsrrn+yZvKxeG3EEhw@public.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes;
>        format=flowed
>
> We are also using the SilvaVersionCleanUp to keep the Data.fs small:
>
>    https://trac.id.ethz.ch/projects/silva_extensions/downloads/38
>
> With this Package you can remove old Versions of Silva Documents;
> after executing it you have to pack the Data.fs and the size will
> decrease a lot (for me it decreased from 3.2 GB to 700 MB ;-)
>
> I configured it with the following values:
>
>     Age of version: 30
>      Number of versions to be kept anyway: 10
>
> Cheers,
> Michele
>
>
> On 23.07.2009, at 19:43, Mallow Geno wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've run into a wall and I am desperate for answers. I don't know
> > if this has anything to do with Silva but if one of you have
> > experience the problem before then maybe you can lead me to the
> > right direction. We host Silva in Zope on a VPS, our Data.fs file
> > is 2.24Gb in size.
> >
> > Our VPS keeps crashing and it's making our website unavailable and
> > preventing other functions on our server from functioning.
> > The crashes are occurring due to memory resource called "privvmpages"
> >
> > I think that the crashes are of a result of zope and silva, have
> > any of you ever encountered this issue?
> > _______________________________________________
> > silva-dev mailing list
> > silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> > https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
>
> --
> ETH Z?rich
> Michele Marcionelli
> IT Support Gruppe D-MATH
> HG G 32.1
> R?mistrasse 101
> CH?8092 Z?rich
>
> [email protected]
> http://www.math.ethz.ch/~michele <http://www.math.ethz.ch/%7Emichele>
>
> +41 44 632 6193 Telefon
> +41 44 632 1354 Fax
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:09:20 +0100
> From: Valentim Branquinho <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [silva-dev] Please help with huge silva
> To: Andy Altepeter <[email protected]>
> Cc: silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> Message-ID: <4E81A715-072B-4E22-8D1F-1A9E58EF4D99-VwwEXrtjTdk@public.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;
>        delsp=yes
>
> Mine too.
> Until last wednesday, Data.fs was with 13GB with daily pack :)
> So, 2GB is a good number :)
>
> Regards
> --
> valentim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23/07/2009, at 19:08, Andy Altepeter wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 23 July 2009 01:06:10 pm Marc Petitmermet wrote:
> >> our data.fs is currently 2.1 gb in size. i should pack it more
> >> often;-)
> > since we're all comparing, ours is automatically packed monthly, and
> > is nearly
> > 13 GB packed.
> >>
> >> Control Panel > Database Management > main > set the number of days
> >> you whish to keep and hit the pack button. after packing it will
> >> probably be less than 500 mb.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> marc
> >>
> >> On 23. Jul 2009, at 19:56 Uhr, Mallow Geno wrote:
> >>> Ok good, I'm glad to get a confirmation that it is not large, that
> >>> eases my blood pressure. What do you mean by "pack it"?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Kit BLAKE <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Mallow,
> >>> 2.24Gb is not large. There are much bigger Data.fs's out there. I
> >>> assume you pack it regularly?
> >>>
> >>> Googling 'privvmpages' returns hits for OpenVZ. Here's one which
> >>> concerns the Drupal CMS:
> >>> http://drupal.org/node/88442
> >>>
> >>> Good luck,
> >>> Kit
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:43, Mallow Geno wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I've run into a wall and I am desperate for answers. I don't know if
> >>> this has anything to do with Silva but if one of you have experience
> >>> the problem before then maybe you can lead me to the right
> >>> direction. We host Silva in Zope on a VPS, our Data.fs file is
> >>> 2.24Gb in size.
> >>>
> >>> Our VPS keeps crashing and it's making our website unavailable and
> >>> preventing other functions on our server from functioning.
> >>> The crashes are occurring due to memory resource called
> >>> "privvmpages"
> >>>
> >>> I think that the crashes are of a result of zope and silva, have any
> >>> of you ever encountered this issue?
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> silva-dev mailing list
> >>> silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> >>> https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "I write things that might be classified as fairy-stories not
> >>> because I wish to address children... but because I wish to write
> >>> this kind of story and no other."  -J.R.R. Tolkien
> >>>
> >>> ?Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they
> >>> don't want, to impress people they don't like.? -Will Smith
> >>>
> >>> "When Love and skill work together, expect a masterpiece." -John
> >>> Ruskin
> >>>
> >>> "A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." -
> >>> Walter Gagehot
> >>>
> >>> This one is different from what I expected:
> >>> "If at first you do succeed try not to act surprised. "-I'll have to
> >>> act on this one
> >>>
> >>> "Things turn out the best for people who make the best out of the
> >>> way things turn out." -Art Linkletter
> >>>
> >>> "if your efforts are sometimes greeted with indifference, don't lose
> >>> heart -- the sun puts on a wonderful show at daybreak, yet most of
> >>> the people in the audience go on sleeping." - Eda F. Teixeira
> >>>
> >>> "You can't turn back the clock but you can wind it up again." -
> >>> Bonnie Prudden
> >>> <ATT00001.txt>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> silva-dev mailing list
> >> silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> >> https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > silva-dev mailing list
> > silva-dev-IAPFreCvJWM6s/[email protected]
> > https://lists.infrae.com/mailman/listinfo/silva-dev
>
>
>
>
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-- 
"I write things that might be classified as fairy-stories not because I wish
to address children... but because I wish to write this kind of story and no
other."  -J.R.R. Tolkien

“Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't
want, to impress people they don't like.” -Will Smith

"When Love and skill work together, expect a masterpiece." -John Ruskin

"A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter
Gagehot

This one is different from what I expected:
"If at first you do succeed try not to act surprised. "-I'll have to act on
this one

"Things turn out the best for people who make the best out of the way things
turn out." -Art Linkletter

"if your efforts are sometimes greeted with indifference, don't lose heart
-- the sun puts on a wonderful show at daybreak, yet most of the people in
the audience go on sleeping." - Eda F. Teixeira

"You can't turn back the clock but you can wind it up again." -Bonnie
Prudden

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