Re: too many database conflicts when using ZODB with int ids and indexes

Sanjay Rao <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.zodb
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Does increasing number of buckets in a BTree reduce chances of conflicts ?
If yes, should I use a custom version of index with BTree having increased 
number of buckets ?


On Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:31:19 UTC+5:30, Jim Fulton wrote:
>
> I should also mention that with indexing, it's usually a good idea to try 
> to do indexing asynchronously, ideally so only one thread is updating an 
> index.  As you add indexes to a catalog, the chance of a conflict increases 
> with each new index.
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Jim Fulton <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Sanjay Rao <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Whenever I add an integer id utility and catalog in my application then 
>>> the number of conflicts rises tremendously.
>>> How can I make integer id utility safer for database conflicts ? 
>>> or 
>>> Can integer id resolve conflicts automatically ?
>>>
>>
>> Only to the extent that it's based on BTrees.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> or 
>>> Can I make integer id utility more robust with respect to conflicts by 
>>> tweaking/tuning some parameters ?
>>>
>>
>> It's been a while since I worked with intid utilities, but from 
>> memory....:
>>
>>    - The intid utility tried to avoid conflicts by assigning ids 
>>    randomly.  This generally avoid conflicts in the
>>    intid -> object internal tree, however
>>    - The original intid design kept a reverse mapping from object to 
>>    intid.  This was to avoid storing intids on objects. (This was in service 
>>    of the noble goal of the catalog being non-intrusive and "not making 
>>    anybody do anything :)".)  Unfortunately, because persistent key references 
>>    are based on persistent object ids, which are allocated sequentially, the 
>>    mapping from persistent key reference -> integer id was very conflict 
>>    prone. :(
>>    
>> At ZC, we mitigated this problem by storing persistent ids on objects and 
>> getting rid of the whole persistent key mechanism (which was rather 
>> complicated) and the persistent key -> integer id mapping.  I don't 
>> remember if we ever released this, but looking, it doesn't seem we did.
>>
>> If your conflicts are in the object -> ids mapping (the internal ``ids`` 
>> attribute, I'd consider making a version of the utility that got rid of 
>> this mapping.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -- 
>> Jim Fulton
>> http://jimfulton.info
>>
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>
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> -- 
> Jim Fulton
> http://jimfulton.info
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