Re: Zope3 name

Jim Fulton <[email protected]> Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:23:08 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.zope2-migration
Organization Zope Corporation
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Paul Everitt wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Paris, seb bacon wrote:
> 
>> There has been a discussion about naming Zope3, which I would like to 
>> revive.
>>
>> First (and what got me thinking about it again): was it appropriate to 
>> call the pre-New-Year-release  an 'alpha'?  On the one hand, I know 
>> Jim is keen to keep up the momentum among developers.  On the other, 
>> it suggests (to me) a level of maturity which the product has not yet 
>> reached, which could damage perceptions from the outside.
> 
> 
> I had a couple of business people, e.g. folks in the government, ask me 
> such questions last week at the conference. 

What were the questions?


  > I'm sure my responses gave
> the impression of some rather tortured tap dancing.

I'm puzzled by this. I thought that the schedule I posted, the note that Rob
posted, and out commitment for supporting the transition would have prepared
you to answer questions, which is why I'm curious about the questions.

Maybe we all (who are involved in answering these questions) need to to
a better job of being armed with the answers.

...


> I think we have to give up on discussions of backporting.  There's 
> simply little interest amongst the core team for such an approach.  It's 
> a shame, because I think history has proven that such an approach 
> (forward or backwards) is Exhibition Number One in a transition 
> strategy. :^(

I don't understsnd why you would say this.  I specifically discussed
migrating some Zope 3 technologies back to Zope 2 as part of the transition
strategy.


> Regarding 2.x, one part I'm not clear on is the status of 2.x.  Based on 
> the ZC official stance, 2.x is not being "terminated", meaning, 
> applications will still be supported and new projects initiated.
> 
> However, is 2.x "end-of-lifed"? 

Someday, yes, but not today.

  > Meaning, will new features be added?

Yes. How long this will be the case depends on the needs and interests of
users and developers.

...

> IMO, Zope 3 is being positioned as appealing to people that want to 
> start over in Zope, not really for people that want to preserve their 
> investment.  I believe the position on the latter group is: "Stick with 
> Zope 2".

In the short term, meaning for the next year, people soley concerned with
perserving their existing investment in Zope 2, should stick with Zope 2.
In the long term, Zope 3 is being positioned to provide a solid platform
for future growth while preserving existing investments.

Jim


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