Re: Re: The elevator speech for Zope 3

Hi Uwe. I have been thinking of something similar and posted on the list=20
a couple of weeks back:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2007-September/023653.html

I want the zcml to be generated with a switch on zc.buildout so all=20
configuration is auto generated. Currently site.zcml is done this way=20
and I want to extend this to the class level. Recipe's would be produced=20
  to handle different types of configuration by providing the decorator=20
methods.

I'm hoping to use decorators exclusively on the classes to do this so=20
there would be no need to modify the code in the classes themselves to=20
accomplish the configuration.  Further, classes without this decoration=20
would be skipped by the process allowing this approach to be=20
incorporated into your code gradually. I want to be able to see and=20
verify the zcml produced and have the same control over it that I have no=
w.

The advantage of having it in buildout is that it becomes integrated=20
into the development of the application, which is by nature just the=20
configuration glue for your packages.

Uwe, is there a chance your package can be zpl'd since I believe bebop=20
is gpl and this is fairly low level code that could be a great plus for=20
general z3 development. At the very least I'd like a zpl'd package to=20
handle configuration this way or to borrow from your efforts to move=20
forward with this idea.

Regards,
David

Uwe Oestermeier wrote:
> Oliver Marx <[email protected]> writes:
>> I have looked at Grok. I love the ideas. But it feels like its a littl=
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>> too much convention over configuration. I do not hate zcml. I hate to=20
>> write zcml. If there was a way to auto generate zcml and way to=20
>> overwrite that zcml when needed - then I would be a happy man.=20
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> Have a look at bebop.protocol  in PyPI. It's still a preminary version =
but
> it does exactly what you want.
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> Regards,
> Uwe
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