Re: AW: Re: The elevator speech for Zope 3

Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> Does grok support a component architecture where I can use some 
>> components from or is grok a "use it all or nothing
>> concept"?
> 
> Grok *aims* to support reusing bits of it. It hasn't reached this goal 
> yet as we focused on making it work first, but has been an explicit 
> seocndary goal from the beginning last year.
> 
> We need to do some things to make this possible:
> 
> * Done: Grok's mechanism of scanning for classes and instances in 
> modules and issuing some form of configuration has been factored out 
> into the martian library.
> 
> * as Philipp mentioned, emit configuration actions instead of component 
> registrations directly. This is underway, started at the sprint last 
> week by Godefroid Chapelle.

Great! Where can this work be seen?

> * split up Grok into separate components that are independently 
> reusable, without having to pull in the whole of Grok to use this. 
> Philipp wanted to start this work but I'm not sure about its status.

There's a branch that works and has tests [1], but I need to speak to 
you about some quirks that the current Grokker story has. Some 
refactoring in Martian would make this much easier. I will bring this up 
on grok-dev.

> * related to this, Grok turns off some of Zope 3's security 
> infrastructure (for content objects, not for views). The Grok core 
> should continue doing this for the forseeable future, but of course if 
> you want to reuse other bits of Grok standalone this shouldn't come along.
> 
> So, this is slowly but surely coming nearer. We want Grok to be a 
> unified story for most users, so this is not our *primary* goal, but we 
> do want Grok's work to be reusable in other Zope 3 projects as well.


[1] http://svn.zope.org/grok/branches/philikon-grokcore.component/

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