Re: [e-users] Mouse cursor size

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 16:20:46 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said:

> Hi Carsten! I appreciate that you always take the time to respond to users
> :)
> 
> > E has its own cursors that uses the efl/e theme
> I know, I tried, I actually notice the "same behaviour". EFL mouse on some
> apps, X mouse on other apps (I just tried, sublime uses E theme, chrome and
> kde uses X theme)

pointers work like this:

all windows in x inherit the pointer from their parent window. e sets a pointer
on the root window. thus apps will inherit this pointer unless they override it
themselves and set a new pointer on their own window(s). nothing the wm can do
about this. so apps that don't override will just inherit whatever e sets.
otherwise they are on their own and set their own pointers.

> > if you use something else then "you're mileage may vary"
> I guess that is understandable, but would it be possible to have some
> hints/idea/helps on how to define this for a consistent env? Again, I am
> aware this is probably out of E's scope, but it _feels_ like as a DE you
> actually should care. As I user, I _expect_ the DE to own the cursor theme
> in one way on another.

it's not possible. any app can set any pointer they like at any time on any
window. there are x cursor themes that many apps use - these are limited and
e/efl do not use them because of that (e.g. the animations that e does in
pointers to show the resize direction or moving animation or the blue flash
when you click are not possible via x cursor themes as they are simple static
images OR a series of N images that loop. as these are limited and thus can't
do things like also adapt to color palette changes, scaling like  efl does it ,
e pretty much doesn't bother much due to it being so limited. you can set an x
cursor theme yourself and go find something and set that with environment
variables, .Xdefaults files etc.

> Emphasis on the words that are probably the most debatable.
> 
> El lun, 9 ene 2023 a la(s) 18:14, Carsten Haitzler ([email protected])
> escribió:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:45:51 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said:
> >
> > > Happy new year! I'm having an issue with cursor theme/size.
> > >
> > > I'm not using E's theme, I have selected `application` in settings ->
> > mouse
> > > -> e theme. Then, I have configured my mouse theme and size in KDE system
> > > settings -> appearance cursors. My current cursor size is 24.
> > >
> > > The problem I have is that some applications respect my cursor size, and
> > > others do not, and I don't understand the pattern:
> > >
> > > * Enlightenment and EFL uses size 36
> >
> > E has its own cursors that uses the efl/e theme. if you use something else
> > then
> > "you're mileage may vary". efl's cursors will scale based on scale factor.
> > there is no good reason to set cursor size as pointers will follow the same
> > scale factor as everything else.
> >
> > > * Dolphin (kde file explorer) uses size 24
> > > * Sublime (gtk3?) uses size 36
> > > * Chrome (gtk3?) uses size 24
> > >
> > > I tried modifying gtk configfiles in my home, but without success.
> > >
> > > I know this probably is not an E issue and rather a gtk issue, but given
> > > that it _apperas_ like E is following different cursors, I thought this
> > > would be first place to _start_ asking.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Wido
> > >
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> 
> -- 
> Wido


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