Re: java - new windows

"Valter Toffolo" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.window-managers.fluxbox.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
as i'm watching that bug report, i got notified about a reply, and i'm
shamed to say it seems to be _really_ a java bug though there is a "fix" for
it in fb side, and it has been already taken care of, and i feel bad for
bringing that up again, though it makes me happy to help andre ;)
for those who care please read the folowing thread
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1572489&group_id=35398&atid=413960
though they show a way to "fix" fluxbox, i'd choose to switch to blackdown
as mark said heheh
for those who really need to use java 1.5, the "fix" shown in this thread
could be valuable, i'm happy someone found that line =D
that's it, sorry mark, and good luck andre!


On 4/16/07, Andre Costa <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Valter,
>
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:10:33 -0300
> "Valter Toffolo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > i agree, it might be a java problem, but if it works in other window
> > managers, it's a fluxbox fault too. probably java is doing strange
> > things one could not predict, but other window managers can handle
> > it, why cant our window manager do it too?
>
> That's my point exactly, I think this should be looked into.
>
> I added a comment on this bug on SF.net.
>
> > maybe if i were a fluxbox
> > developer and never use java apps i wouldn't bother fixing it, but i
> > think fluxbox deserves the fix! i already tried to fix another fb bug
> > but it wouldn't come to a happy end as i dont know fb code and
> > structure and all, would take too long and i was busy and gave up.
> > but maybe i could try again hehe or any of us, i believe there's a
> > lot of developers among fb users... unfortunately most are always too
> > busy =\
>
> Yeah, it would be great if anyone could take a look into it...
>
> Regards,
>
> Andre
>
> >
> > On 4/14/07, Andre Costa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mmmh... not sure it is so simple. Java 5 behaves correctly with
> > > Metacity (all my co-workers use standard GNOME environment). IMHO
> > > this deserves some further investigation, maybe there's indeed some
> > > problem with fluxbox.
> > >
> > > I'm still insisting on using fluxbox on my development environment,
> > > but current Java app behavior is a real PITA, and this makes my
> > > life as a Java developer miserable =/ Upgrading to Java 1.6 at work
> > > is not feasible in the short term due to other technical issues, so
> > > it will be Java 5 for a little (?) longer.
> > >
> > > I am not saying this isn't a Java bug; but, to be realistic, Java
> > > upgrades come every once in a blue moon, it might be much simpler
> > > dealing with it on fluxbox side (if at all possible).
> > >
> > > I hope fluxbox developers will listen to my plea and at least give
> > > it a try ;-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Andre
> > >
> > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:44:49 -0300
> > > "Valter Toffolo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > you're right, java is #*%&@^# imho heheh
> > > > well, i submited a bug report at sf and mark closed it with this
> > > > comment
> > > >
> > > > *Comments*
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Date: 2007-04-12 14:06
> > > > Sender: mark-t <https://sourceforge.net/users/mark-t/>Logged In:
> > > > YES user_id=1538990
> > > > Originator: NO
> > > >
> > > > This is a Java bug. Switch to 1.6 or Blackdown.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > question settled ;)
> > > > happy fluxboxing for everyone =D
> > > >
> > > > On 4/11/07, Andre Costa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:06:11 -0500
> > > > > Lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This has definitely happened to me using various java apps.
> > > > > > It's quite annoying.  I haven't experimented with those java
> > > > > > apps using different WMs as I can't stand to be away from
> > > > > > fluxbox.  :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, speaking of Java behaving bad, Beryl + Emerald makes Java
> > > > > 6.0 behave _really_ crazy. Menus don't work, windows don't
> > > > > resize and all sorts of craziness... despite all the eye candy,
> > > > > Java 6 with Beryl is a real show-stopper.
> > > > >
> > > > > (but that's OT for Fluxbox ML =) Just wanted to show that
> > > > > Java-related problems are not exclusive to Fluxbox)
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Andre
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 4/11/07, Valter Toffolo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > i noticed a problem with java applications, when it opens
> > > > > > > some new window, all java windows belonging to that
> > > > > > > application are iconified. it first happened with a simple
> > > > > > > and unknown java application i download for sending sms.
> > > > > > > now jude ( http://jude.change-vision.com/jude-web/) is
> > > > > > > behaving the same way and i just remembered jape
> > > > > > > (http://jape.org.uk/) did that too. as these are the only
> > > > > > > three java applications i already used, and i tried with
> > > > > > > wmaker and it doesnt happen, i guess this is a java/fluxbox
> > > > > > > problem. does it happen to you as well? or never happened
> > > > > > > with any java app? or just with some apps? is it a possible
> > > > > > > fb bug? no more questions ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
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