Re: FVWM: two questions about icons

In message <CAJabFbhBO8Qz8=_3_UDCSmi3_Y0W3X+z54DYjYAxZVDsqTDWFg@mail.gmail.com>
firefox.xprop wrote:

>This is probably because my memory is failing me (I wasn't able to
>double check what resource/class firefox uses these days).
>
>Use FvwmIdent or xprop and figure out the correct resource/class of
>firefox on your system and use that instead of 'firefox' in the Style
>line.

Please see attached fle which is the output from xprop.  I seriously have
no idead= what I am looking for in this file, but I do see several places
where the name "Firefox" (capitalized) appears.  My assumption was that
perhaps this is the magic string I needed to be using, so I substituted
that in, in place of "firefox" in the Style lines within both ~/.fvwm2rc
and also ~/.fvwm/config and then I again exited X and restarted it, and
I'm still getting the BIG icons.

Maybe you can look at this xprop output and intuit what name, precisely,
I should be using in the Style line, but I'm totally ignorant of all of
this stuff so it's a complete enigma to me.

>One really needs to read the docs and understand what commands are
>doing in fvwm to make the most out of it. For a Style you need to
>ensure you match the name/class/resource of the window.

OK, two things...

First, at this point my goals are -very- modest.  I don't really need to
"make the most" out of fvwm.  I'm mostly happy with the default fuctionality
-and- with the default theme.

Second, to be frank, I've already been throughly intimidated by the gigantic
size of the fvwm man page.  I mean seriously... holy moses!  It's wonderful
that fvwm provides such massive flexibility and such massive configurability,
but unless and until I need to write a Master's thesis on this one tool,
I don't believe that I'll have time to delve seriously into even the first
couple of layers of the complexity here.  Don't get me wrong.  I admire this
tool and also every person who has worked to create it.  But my needs are
simple and my time, limited.  If I can just get these three simple things
fixed then I'll be a happy camper: (1) proper (48x48) icon size for Firefox,
(2) a proper sort of an icon being used for minimized xterm windows and (3)
a nice digital xclock displaying in the space below where the default theme
is putting the xbiff thingy and analog xclock.

I've already received a suggestion on how to do that last one... which I have
yet to try, but which I am hoping will work... so now I just need some
simple fixes for the other two.

As I say, I greatly admire fvwm and all of this ornate configurability.  It
apparently gives the user that ability to configure just about everything.
That's wonderful, of course.  I just wish that it had an option also to
select a preferred icon size.  That would have simplified everything a lot,
I think.


Regards,
rfg


P.S.  Many UNIX programs/utilities that support their own config files
document the format of allowable entries in those files in a separate
man page from the one that documents the program itself (e.g. ntp.conf
and many others).  This makes it a bit easier to find what one is looking
for, either by looking at the man page for the program or at the man
page for the configuration file.

I only mention this because it seems to me that the man page for fvwm
might benefit from such a separation of concerns (into two separate
man pages).

Just a thought.  Probably worth what you paid for it. :-)