Re: FVWM: Thank you for your work and suggestions for new FVWM features

Wojciech Lipinski <[email protected]> Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:33:18 +1000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.window-managers.fvwm
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Thank you. See below.
Best wishes,
Wojciech

On 12/7/21 12:22 am, Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:13:49PM +1000, Wojciech Lipinski wrote:
>> Perhaps I could help a little bit with the content cleaning and merging. I
>> do not have much spare time either but I could do what I can in the time
>> available. I am not sure how http://fvwm.sourceforge.net/ relates to
>> fvwm.org and who is in charge of it.
> Me neither, and it's not something I'm bothered to find out.  In most
> cases, it seems sourceforge sites have been taken over by squatters.  Although
> that's perhaps not the case here, I don't have control of that site and don't
> wish to.  As I said before, in most google searches, fvwm.org is usually the
> place that's referenced.
Yes, fvwm.org comes at the top, Github is a bit lower in the search 
results of Duckduckgo in Australia.
>> It says it is a mirror of fvwm.org and
>> that it is an official FVWM page, but it does not look like a mirror of
>> fvwm.org anymore. However, the following section of that "mirror" website is
>> quite useful: http://fvwm.sourceforge.net/doc/unstable/allCommands.html
> That's not something that's going to work for fvwm3, as the documentation is
> now rendered via asciidoctor.  To maintain this list, we'd have to produce
> this a different way.
I can see that /Archive/Manpages on fvwm.org contain all the commands 
(https://www.fvwm.org/Archive/Manpages/fvwm.html#lbBN). I could not find 
an index containing all commands. Would those pages, perhaps with a 
command index added and after removal of all the obsolete features, be 
an reasonable starting point for the official documentation of FVWM3 
commands?
>> Furthermore, some websites, e.g. https://wiki.debian.org/Fvwm, refer to
>> https://www.fvwm.org/contact/
>> but it leads to 404.
> If Jaimos is reading this, I'm sure he'll be able to fix this on the
> Debian-side.
Thanks. fvwm.org says 2.6.9 is a stable frozen release. Wikipedia says 
3-1.0.3 is the current stable release. Perhaps 2.6.9 should be referred 
to as the old stable on fvwm.org?
>> I guess there is some legacy for the long history of
>> FVWM. How is fvwm.org maintained?
> It's no different to how it has always been.  It's just that now, Github is
> being used for CI/CD and for people to submit patches.
>
>> I can see that fvwm.org is now much
>> refreshed and it has its Wiki section. Is it based on MediaWiki? If not,
>> have you and/or your colleagues considered using MediaWiki?
> It's using Markdown and Jekyll (which is what is used for Github Pages as
> well).  See:  https://www.fvwm.org/Wiki/ -- this will tell where to find the
> repository to checkout for the Wiki as well (it's a part of the fvwm.org
> website code).
Found it, thanks, all clear now. One more question related to the versions:

/Wiki/Todo says under "Edits and Cleanup"
"Update syntax and versions to 2.6.x.". As 3-1.03 is now the stable 
release, does it mean the 2.6.x syntax will be fully maintained in 
FVWM3, or this is some legacy text in the Wiki page?
> Kindly,
> Thomas