Re: ion-3rc-09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.tar.gz

On 5/12/07, Tuomo Valkonen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2007-05-12, Alexander Shishkin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > At least, autoconf deals with cross-compilation while most of those
> > who think that they can write decent makefiles fail to do so.
>
> If cross-compilation needs more than changing the compiler used
> and/or its flags, and library/include paths, that system is fucked
> up. (Alternatively a chroot jail should be used.)
How can you tell if malloc(0) in target's C library returns zero or
behaves like glibc's, for example? What with 1500 of such little
conditional settings? Defining all those in a makefile is what I
prefer to call being fucked up.
Does ion3 cross-compile at all, btw? Does luac produce 100%
architecture-independent bytecode?

> > Any of this fails to attract my attention in debian, for example.
>
> Debian is a complex fucked up mess.
I'm not a poet, but it still sucks less.

Again, the only major concerns of mine (with debian or not) is ion's breakage.
You've taken to talk a lot of fud recently, btw.

> > Except, probably the case when I discovered that ion3 no longer does
> > xinerama due to you being somehow upset with xinerama API.
>
> Not the API -- there isn't much of it; just that the whole thing
> is a pointless [1] exercise in mutually incompatible extensions,
> which combined with ICCCM incompleteness in the nested WM window
> department, makes it impossible to get working Right. Given this,
Oh right, now with xinerama being supported in ion for so many years,
you figured out that problem. However, being a mere luser in the
context of window management, I don't care since I've never hit any
problem with that and now with xinerama support removed my feelings
are hurt.

> the state of the planet, and the general distaste I have for the
> consumerist culture, I'm not going to waste my time supporting
Now you sound like those sinister FOSS people from your previous mails
and blog entries. Being asshole towards not-completely-dumb users for
no apparent reason (or should I say: a problem that may arise in a
galaxy far-far away is not really a convincing reason?).

> and helping anyone enlarging their penises with multihead
> configurations.
Want to talk about penises?
And yes, here in Russia we're totally buried in consumerism. My BMW
X5, for instance, has a platinum steering wheel.

> Convenient or not, I doubt you have a justifiable (to me, not the
> FOSS herd and other conspicious consumers) need for a multihead
> setup.
I can walk my way to New Zealand sooner than you accept the
probability of the fact that you're not 100% right sometimes, let
along the xinerama thing. I don't feel like wasting my breath on this
any more.

-- 
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.