Re: Ion rewriting

What prevents you to write a new window manager in whatever language you
want? Why do it need to be in anyway related to ion?

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Roy Lanek <lanek-tnsfOxNVUhtWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > Rewrites in The Language of the Day are lame (see also the .signature),
> for
> > people with a lot of time in their hands and no original ideas.
>
> Haskell language-of-the-day ... why?, because xmonad is using it? (Nor was
> I thinking at an 1-1 rewrite, it would not work well in general even among
> languages of the same class.)
>
> > C works quite well, especially combined with Lua for the tasks that
> > are not nicely done in C.
>
> True: Eiffel, Ada, Modula-3, ..., even Haskell generate intermediary C
> code.
> (Works well apparently ... minus the setjmp and family thing.)
>
> > into the limitations of C, because I have my frameworks written ages ago.
>
> Oh dear, hello Moses- (the illiterate who brought back the astonishing
> writings) alike, or Muhammad- (ditto [illiterate]) alike. And who did write
> your "frameworks" "ages ago"?
>
> > The language just isn't meant for that kind of stuff.
>
> Can't tell now. On the other hand:
>
>    Haskell Hacking: a journal of Haskell programming
>    2007-05-17
>    Roll Your Own Window Manager: Tracking Focus with a Zipper
>    http://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/blog/2007/05/17
>
> > Dynamic data structures (e.g. objects) are _pain_ ...
>
> You do have a good, comfortable life, there in Finland, eh? :) Anyway, I
> don't
> remember such a "_pain_." (I am thinking back at a semester exercise in
> Hope
> of a bank-simulation: no _pain_.)
>
> > Bullshit. It's very very laboursome to make fast Haskell code, and
> > especially such that doesn't eat gigabytes of memory for breakfast.
>
> Hmmm ...
>
> I am sure you have seen those classic examples from the physiology ... one
> looks at image, and sees something. Then one looks again, and ... oh
> surprise,
> another, different thing can be discovered. Alternatively, you may have
> seen
> those examples which would implement the, e.g., Fibonacci function in a
> terribly inefficient way using recursion too naively ... and those
> solutions
> to thankfully *fix* that too.
>
> I have, e.g., *met* reference counting in the *real world* for the first
> time
> once we had to implement it for reusing allocated memory (Pascal on VAX)
> because we were larding objects on the left and on the right (paging) in a
> very inefficient way. (I have later discovered a similar situation
> described
> in Programmin Pearls, by the way.)
>
> /Roy
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