Re: Using Openbox with Wayland

Ranjan Wrote...

> My question is: what login manager do you use? I use SLiM but was thinking
> of going to XDM since the former appears to be dead. Would either of these
> work?


I used the default GDM login manager.  Just added the
"xorg-x11-xinit-session" which gives a "User Script" option to a pop up
menu during the login process (right click, or on older machines select the
'settings' button - before you finish entering your password).   Yout
selection is saved so you only need to do this once, though you can change
it on your next login.  I do not know where the selection is saved.

If I did not want to use gdm, I have switched to using "lightdm" instead,
but ALL login managers, except GDM is supposed to be backward compatible
with the old :.xsession" / ".xinitrc" login scripts.

My own scripts (evolved over 25 years of use) is far more flexible than any
DE I have seen, able to switch to different window managers, select
different client program lists depending on the machine or server
(console/vnc/host etc) or restart all my X window clients wthout actually
logging out!

On previous release updates I would normally have to login first time using
gnome, just to install the extra packages, especially those from rpmfusion,
but this time I was able to install all the extra packages even before I
booted for the first time, and so avoid gnome desktop entirely (though its
packages are installed, and I do use nautilus and gnome-control-center for
some things.

I would like to switch to using wayland. But until I arrange my windows,
how I want them, and not how someone else things I want them, I will avoid
it.   Gnome is a non-starter for me!  Good for a novice but horrible for a
old user like me.

I have been using Xwindows and UNIX from the days of X10! I even used...
SunView!   I switched to openbox when ctwm started to fall apart as a
useful window manager.

  Anthony Thyssen ( System Programmer )    <A.Thyssen-YlX7AVbyhojX/[email protected]>
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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Ranjan Maitra <[email protected]> wrote:

> Anthony,
>
> I had never heard to xorg-x11-xinit-session before, but the info file has
> the
>
> Summary     : Display manager support for ~/.xsession and ~/.Xclients
>
> My question is: what login manager do you use? I use SLiM but was thinking
> of going to XDM since the former appears to be dead. Would either of these
> work?
>
> Many thanks,
> Ranjan
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 10:24:19 +1000 Anthony Thyssen <
> a.thyssen-YlX7AVbyhojX/[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I am currently using openbox on fedora 25 ... no problems,
> > Though it switched to a XOrg server (on tty2) for my session, rather than
> > run under Wayland (on tty1)
> >
> > I run openbox from the 'orginal' scripted Xsession/XInitrc setup.
> > Which I launch by installing the package  "xorg-x11-xinit-session"
> > That lets me select a "User Script" session from the login screen (on
> tty1)
> >
> >
> > I don't know the mechanics of how it does this switch, but it worked
> > 'out-of-the-box',  mostly as all my normal packages was installed.
> >
> > I installed Fedora 25 into a new 'root' partition while running fedora
> 22.
> > As such I had all the packages I wanted installed even before I first
> boot
> > the system!
> > This was the first time I did it this way and after some experimenting it
> > worked great.
> > My notes on how to install (not upgrade) a new release, while running a
> old
> > release is in
> > http://www.ict.griffith.edu.au/anthony/info/usage/fedora_on_
> new_partition.txt
> >
> > WARNING: That update worked for EXT4 but I am missing something with grub
> > for handling a XFS root partitions. If anyone know what I missed please
> > contact me.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Jim Rees <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > >
> > >   Thanks again to both Dana and Ian! This will be quite a problem for
> me to
> > >   leave Fedora since I have spent over 13 years on it, and have been a
> > >   contributor also. But I will ask on Fedora's mailing list about what
> the
> > >   options are, since I also do not want to get tied down by an
> unnecessary
> > >   DE.
> > >
> > > I too have avoided using a DE. Every time I try one it seems to just
> get in
> > > the way. But the world is headed in that direction.
> > >
> > > I've had good luck with Arch. It's modular enough that you can add just
> > > Xorg, add a WM if you want, or add any of the popular DEs if you want.
> I
> > > suspect you can still do this with Fedora; you could last time I
> tried. But
> > > it's probably easier with Arch. I have even installed Ubuntu with just
> Xorg
> > > and Openbox, and that wasn't too hard.
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