Re: Fedora, Gnome, Weyland and sawfish

On 14/04/17 19:02, Stefan Husmann wrote:
> Allan Duncan <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> This doesn't seem to have made the list.
>>
>> On 14/04/17 16:22, Stefan Husmann wrote:
>>> Allan Duncan <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>> I have been quite happy with my XFCE/sawfish combo, but I want to take
>>>> advantage of the weyland backend, now shipping as part of gnome.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone succeeded in switching window managers?
>>>>
>>>> For that matter, how do I make the change to gnome anyway, apart from
>>>> doing a complete new distro install?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Sawfish ML
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> what advantages of the wayland backend do you expect? Especially if you
>>> intend to use sawfish under Gnome? I do not think there are any, on the
>>> contrary. You will need the Xwayland layer, which adds one more layer
>>> and will make things slowwer.
>>
>> I was under the impression that - at some stage - wayland was supposed
>> to make use of any GPU available.
>> I'm a bit vague about where the various blocks of the display system fit
>> together, but thought that wayland talked directly to the backend
>> drivers.  Are you implying that Xwayland would precede wayland in the
>> chain, and a window manager would be feeding into Xwayland?
>>
>>> Gnome and XFCE can coexist on your system. There is definitely no need
>>> to einstall the whole system. Just install the relevant Gnome packages.
>>
>> Yeah, that would be ideal, but working out what those packages might be
>> and then making them automagically fire up is beyond me.
> Well I do not know Fedora well, but isn't Gnome the default desktop there?

Yes.  There are bits of it still there that things interact with, it 
just isn't in charge.
>>> How do yo invoke XFCE? If you are using a display manager, you should be
>>> able to configure it in a way so you can choose the desktop environment
>>> at startup. If you use plain startx, you would need to change the
>>> .xinitrc file each time.
>>
>> Buggered if I know - I set it up quite some time back using a Fedora
>> XCFE spin, then hacked it to use sawfish.

> You need nto figure that out. How do you start your computer?

Umm, I turn it on and systemd does its thing and I end up at level 5 
with X running and a login prompt.  There is very little of help in 
/etc/X11.

> But these questions are not at all related to sawfish, and so you will
> get better answers on a Fedora forum or mailing list.
> 
> Stefan
> 


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Sawfish ML