Re: windows all shift 3-4 pixels left every workspace change in F42

Are you quite sure that " the DE can't affect window position"?       I wou=
ld guess that it can and does.=0A=
As I'm sure you know,      XFCE4 comes with its own WM,   xfwm4.=0A=
I have at various times in the past run XFCE (on Ubuntu) without sawfish,  =
   and currently run sawfish on archlinux with no official DE ( I find sawf=
ish with its programmability is sufficient for all desktop needs),   so I c=
an't speak to your combination,    but I suggest that,   at least for testi=
ng purposes,   you try turning off XFCE and see if your problem persists.=
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Cheers,    John=0A=
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From:=A0Trevor Cordes <[email protected]>=0A=
Sent:=A0November 24, 2025 9:45 PM=0A=
Cc:[email protected] <[email protected]>=0A=
Subject:=A0Re: [Sawfish] windows all shift 3-4 pixels left every workspace =
change in F42=0A=
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On 2025-11-24 Jan Kasprzak wrote:=0A=
> It might be theme related, or something with local config=0A=
> modifications: I did not see anything like that on F42 or F43 on=0A=
> three different desktops. I use "blue-steel" theme.=0A=
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I just tried every theme that on my system, which strangely is only 9=0A=
themes, and does not include blue-steel.=A0 That's also a bit strange=0A=
since I've seen that in the past.=A0 I guess Fedora is stingy with what=0A=
themes it supplies by default.=0A=
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Every theme showed the same bug, even one of the themes that had a=0A=
super thin border.=A0 The windows seem to move by the same pixel count=0A=
regardless of theme.=0A=
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I looked through my ~/.sawfish/custom file and it does not appear to=0A=
contain any customization that would cause this.=A0 I cam attaching my=0A=
custom file if that can help someone else spot the problem.=0A=
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I am running XFCE4, but I am pretty sure the DE can't affect window=0A=
position -- that's a WM function, right?=A0 There was talk in the F42=0A=
release notes about XFCE updates for wayland, however (of course) I am=0A=
not running wayland.=0A=
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Seems like such a tiny bug, but in reality watching my (dozens of)=0A=
windows slowly "walk" to the left side of my screen -- across 3=0A=
monitors! -- is going to make me insane after a few days!=

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