Re: Retiring the ListServ

My recommendation would be to require that new members have their first posts moderated.  That should cut down on bots joining up, sending X number of spam messages, and then abandoning their accounts.

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From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lorion
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ

For now I made the list public to make it easier for me and everyone, but I could make it so that a new user needs to send a request before becoming a member and existing members can invite friends. I think that should at least stop the spammers.

As for signal to noise, I could make it invite only (how effective it would be, I am not sure). It would also have the side effect that newbies would be virtually excluded, which I see as a rather good thing. There are already many places for them elsewhere...

Let me know what you think. Also, it would be good to have at least 2 people managing the list, so if something happens to me, you are not all out of luck :p Any volunteer(s) ?

Sébastien
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Pardee, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hah--thanks for the laugh.
>
> Not for nothing, but I suspect/fear that one big reason we've had such
> a high signal/noise ratio on here is the relative obscurity of the
> list.  I love google groups (and will join the new one, as well as
> Efran's) but won't be surprised if our bright stars are diluted in fairly short order.
>
> But maybe I'm just an elitist bastard... ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Zaccariah Bowling
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Retiring the ListServ
>
> Errr woops. That was supposed to be a directly reply. Used to mailman
> type list servers allowing me to reply directly.
>
> Now everyone knows our evil plans. That sucks.
>
> Zac
>
> On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Zaccariah Bowling wrote:
>
> > Just have us mono contributors take over the list. We could use it
> > as part of our plans of world domination where we can control the
> > content and lightly sway and shape the base over to getting everyone
> > over to running their CLI code on Linux over time. Muhaha.. (I'm
> > just upset because my interview at Microsoft didn't go as well as I
> > hoped on
> > Friday)
> >
> > Anyways, I didn't know you followed the list too Sebastion? That's
> > awesome I know Miguel and Kangaroo follow too.
> >
> > Zac
> >
> >
> > On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Lorion wrote:
> >
> >> Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply
> >> join the group.
> >>
> >> Sébastien
> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Greg Young
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as
> >>>> this
> >>> list
> >>>> has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can
> >>>> remember,
> >>> no
> >>>> flame wars or such childish things.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sébastien
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt
> >>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web
> >>>>>> forums and other discussion mediums.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there
> >>>>> instead of this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or
> >>>>> whatever?
> >>> DevelopMentor
> >>>>> could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lack of exit strategy... painful every time.
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