Re: Consuming your own events.

> Most developers have to use multiple frameworks in their day-to-day jobs.
> 
> The fact that multiple frameworks use the OnXxx naming convention
> differently introduces consistency issues that directly impact the
> robustness of your code, especially when you build frameworks for others.

        Sure, but that's unavoidable: there are always guidelines which are
contradicting, so which one to follow? earlier today I showed that the
Webforms' DataSourceControl uses different methods than winforms for the same
thing, which one to follow?

        The best and only thing you can do is:
1) be consistent inside your own framework
2) document things properly. 

> When something smells badly, you can try and take the point of view that one
> of the implementation choices is the right one, apply it, and expect
> developers to understand and accept your view of the pattern, or you can
> avoid it like the plague and define better semantics to solve the problem
> once and for all.

        Then still you run the risk of it being misunderstood/misinterpreted.
The one true thing you need is proper documentation: if it's properly
described what to do and what the methods stand for, there's no confusion and
no problem. 

        Sure if people refuse to read documentation or are too stupid to write
the documentation, then things are out of control. Darwin.... 

                FB
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion of development on the .NET platform using any managed
> > language [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sébastien
> > Lorion
> > Sent: 30 January 2008 12:41
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [DOTNET-CLR] Consuming your own events.
> >
> > Well, I understand your scenario better now, but ... this is (up to
> > now) specific to WPF and it is not the first time that the one making
> > guidelines is breaking them .... *cough* binding *cough*.
> >
> > Why would this apply to, say, ObservableCollection<T> ?
> >
> > Sébastien
> >
> > On 1/30/08, Sebastien Lambla <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I'm talking about using attached events that your type is not an
> > owner of.
> > > For example
> > >
> > > public event MouseButtonEventHandler MouseDown
> > > {
> > >     add
> > >     {
> > >         this.AddHandler(Mouse.MouseDownEvent, value, false);
> > >     }
> > >     remove
> > >     {
> > >         this.RemoveHandler(Mouse.MouseDownEvent, value);
> > >     }
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > Now let's see what the OnMouseDown method is.
> > >
> > > protected virtual void OnMouseDown(MouseButtonEventArgs e)
> > > {
> > > }
> > >
> > > Sparing you with the nasty details:
> > > EventManager.RegisterClassHandler(typeof(UIElement),
> > Mouse.MouseDownEvent,
> > > new MouseButtonEventHandler(UIElement.OnMouseDownThunk), true);
> > >
> > >
> > > So the next generation UI framework uses OnXxx for event handling
> > (not
> > > raising!). Raising itself uses the RaiseEvent method.
> > >
> > > This conflicts with the guidelines that have been discussed, conflict
> > less
> > > with the ones i've just explained. Because of that, I advise against
> > using
> > > the On notation, to prevent the confusion introduced by different
> > > frameworks...
> > >
> > > --
> > > SerialSeb
> > > http://serialseb.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Discussion of development on the .NET platform using any
> > managed
> > > > language [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Sébastien
> > > > Lorion
> > > > Sent: 30 January 2008 11:45
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [DOTNET-CLR] Consuming your own events.
> > > >
> > > > On 1/30/08, Sebastien Lambla <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > When you start, like in WPF, using different property stores for
> > your
> > > > > events, the problem becomes even worse (and it's that problem
> > that
> > > > has
> > > > > triggered my move to this new pattern).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Could you elaborate on this bit, I am not sure I follow you. I
> > think
> > > > you mean to use a hashtable to associate events to their delegate
> > > > instead of default
> > > > storage (ie one field by event) ? If so, how is it affected by the
> > > > OnXXX pattern ?
> > > >
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