Re: Consuming your own events.

Sebastien Lambla <[email protected]> Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:51:14 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.windows.devel.dotnet.clr
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I've written a more detailed review of the issues and proposed solution on
my blog, for those that are still interested in the subject.

http://serialseb.blogspot.com/2008/02/raising-event-without-checking-for-nul
l.html

(or when a URL goes bonkers because you change what you're talking about in
the middle of a post...)

--
SerialSeb
http://serialseb.blogspot.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of development on the .NET platform using any managed
> language [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Petersson
> Sent: 01 February 2008 11:36
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [DOTNET-CLR] Consuming your own events.
>
> sorry, SerialSeb
>
> but after reading through most of the comments on this thread, the
> article refered to by Peter Ritchie, I have to agree with Peter and
> some others.
>
> IMHO the On<TheEvent> model pattern/model defined by Microsoft is good-
> enough (and implemented consistently in the BCL) for simple event
> handling and that the introduction of a new version isn't justified.
> For more complex event cases I still argue that callback interfaces
> that reflect the complete protocol is the sustainable approach; (such
> cases could handle so many more aspects of event:ing that I'm note even
> sure that it should be called event:ing, it is more a message-passing
> system).
>
> regards,
>   Daniel
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Discussion of development on the .NET platform using any managed
> language [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sebastien Lambla
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:35 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [DOTNET-CLR] Consuming your own events.
>
> RaiseXxx / HandleXxx pattern, and explicit Before/After or Cancelable
> events
> when an event can or should be cancelled.
>
> I'm also objecting to the idea that all methods are non virtal by
> default
> but all event raising methods are virtual.
>
> --
> SerialSeb
> http://serialseb.blogspot.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion of development on the .NET platform using any
> managed
> > language [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of silky
> > Sent: 31 January 2008 23:52
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [DOTNET-CLR] Consuming your own events.
> >
> > On Feb 1, 2008 10:07 AM, Sebastien Lambla <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Asp.net event handling hooking uses OnXxx=delegate... IE uses
> > onclick...
> > >
> > > Most of the developers I work with are using the OnXxx for handling
> > events
> > > because they're web devs and it makes sense to them...
> > >
> > > You raise interesting questions. But me worrying about how people
> use
> > my API
> > > and not having the right reaction when overriding a virtual is an
> > issue, and
> > > one that has caused quite a few long-running bugs over the year.
> > >
> > > If you need to rely on analysis tools for errors like those, I
> still
> > > consider that your contract wasn't strong enough.
> > >
> > > I think we've reached the point where I'm on my own in this quest,
> so
> > I'll
> > > leave it at that for now.
> >
> > Seb, I may have missed it in amongst all the posts; but what do you
> > propose instead of the "OnXXX" approach?
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > SerialSeb
> > > http://serialseb.blogspot.com
> >
> > --
> > http://lets.coozi.com.au/
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