Re: From VB to C# - anyone know of a good book?

subjective and emotional
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Cameron" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] From VB to C# - anyone know of a good book?


> I'll second that: C# is better than VB for .Net
>
> In addition to the other features, IMO VB.Net is a retrofit of features
> to bring it up to the level of C#. It uses the clunky syntax of VB and
> it isn't always a good fit.
>
> C# is a more concise and expressive language. In addition if you read
> books like .NET Gotchas (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/netgotchas/) you
> will see a stack of issues that relate directly to VB.net that don't
> apply to C# (this is a comment more for 1.1 not 2.0).
>
> My personal belief (and someone from Microsoft may be able to correct me
> on this) is that .net and C# were the original pair and VB was added
> later. I also believe that Microsoft is more likely to drop support for
> VB.Net than C#.
>
> David
>
> Matthew McDonald wrote:
>> If you're familiar with VB.NET and OOP you should pick up C# pretty
>> quickly.
>>
>> A few advantages of C# over VB:
>> -VB doesn't actualy compile to IL very well, (ask the mono guys). A lot
>> of
>> VB.NET functionality relies on a binary assembly.
>> -C# has anonymous methods
>> -C# was designed with .NET specifically in mind
>> -While performance is rarely an issue in .NET, C# typically runs a little
>> better since its syntax is easier to compile to IL
>> -VB is capable of allowing some really bad techniques (for example you
>> don't
>> have make explicit casts which undermines the advantages of having a
>> strongly typed assembly)
>>
>> I do agree that VB is a perfectly viable language. However, you really
>> need
>> to have a lot of discipline when you code in it and you also need to
>> spend a
>> little more time versing yourself in best practices otherwise you're
>> likely
>> to hose anyone who ever has to deal with your code later.
>>
>> -Matt McDonald
>>
>> On 2/8/07, Mike Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a particular reason why?
>>>
>>> I'm fluent in both and can easily switch between them.  C# is the
>>> language
>>> for my work and I write all my other code in VB.
>>> My favorite is VB.
>>>
>>> I think the IDE has been improved over the C# IDE for VB programmers.
>>> C# IDE is more combersome when dealing with objects and events.
>>> VB has the My namespace (although I wish it was named something
>>> different)
>>> which contains many very useful shortcuts; it should be a part of both
>>> "languages".
>>> The VB intellisense is slightly better.
>>> VB gives you the ability to have parameterized properties.
>>> (I realize I'll get hammered on this one)...
>>> I love the fact that VB makes some implict conversions for you and you
>>> don't
>>> have to explicitly cast everything.
>>>
>>> But in raw power, and usage of the Framework, neither one surpasses the
>>> other.  It's really a matter of preference regardless of what one
>>> proponent
>>> says over the other.  It all boils down to IDE.  They both compile into
>>> the
>>> same IL.
>>>
>>> That said, what does make a difference is holding on to the vestigages
>>> of
>>> VB
>>> such as using ON ERROR RESUME NEXT and other such VB specific constructs
>>> about which the compiler has to make assumptions.
>>>
>>> I believe the reason that the perception is that C# is "better" is
>>> that VB
>>> is still viewed as a substandard way of accomplishing programming tasks
>>> and
>>> that could not be further from the truth.  VB is just as viable a
>>> programming solution for development as C#.
>>>
>>> As far as a book for C#, these I would highly recommend; I own these and
>>> they have been a tremendous help.  You must remember, however, that they
>>> may
>>> be called "C#", but they're Framework books and the examples (for the
>>> most
>>> part) will apply regardless of language.  These books do have a
>>> counterpart
>>> for VB as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pro ASP.NET 2.0 in C# 2005
>>>   Matthew MacDonald and Mario Szpuszta
>>>
>>> C# 2005 and the .NET 2.0 Platform
>>>   Andrew Troelsen
>>>
>>> Pro .NET 20.0 Windows Froms and Custom Controls in C#
>>>   Matthew MacDonald
>>>
>>> Windows Form 2.0 Programming
>>>   chris Sells and Michael Weinhardt
>>>
>>> Professional C# 2005
>>>   (too many authors to name)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/2/07, Ben Joyce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi all.
>>> >
>>> > I've decided to start learning C# and also practice more OO
>>> > programming.  Does anyone have any book recommendations?  I'm an
>>> > experienced VB developer so I'm guessing beginner-level might be a
>>> > waste, but perhaps I need to unlearn my VB ways to learn C# the
>>> > correct way?
>>> >
>>> > I hope that makes sense!
>>> >
>>> > Any help appreciated.
>>> >
>>> > Ben
>>> >
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