Re: Question?

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Hi Kirk,

Nice to make your acquaintance.

On Thursday 29 January 2004 7:24 am, Kirk Daries wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Dowloaded netWindows yesterday (version 0.3).

There's a new stable pre-release tarball available. 0.3 had some bugs 
that are fixed in the new tarball, and the documentation is MUCH 
better, not to mention the new logging facility. Give 0.4.0pre3 a 
shot.

> Looking pretty good even on IE 6.
> For an Unsupported browser(according to the pdf manual)... things
> seem to work fine.

Heh, I think that's a bug in the manual. We do support IE 6, although 
I personally develop to Moz first and then port to fix the stuff that 
IE breaks.

> Basically I started out the day looking for a widget lib with a
> similar functionality to that
> of DynApi(Cross Browser, easy API)  but with more widgets!. 
> NetWindows seems to be a good fit.
> Plus, it lends itself to server side generation(via it's use of the
> Dom). Cool!
>
> Spent most of the day going through the old list archives just
> trying to get a feel for the list.
>
> Questions:
>
> One of the post's I read stated that netWindows will be changing
> it's name. Is that still in the pipeline.
> If so, when is the change going to happen?

I guess that depends on whether or not Microsoft is really going to 
sue me. They've been threatening for something like 2 years now. They 
send me missives demanding my domain, I tell them no. It's a weird 
kind of cat-and-mouse game. We'll see what happens.

> How many developers/users are there of netWindows? Any good sites I
> can check out?

I don't really know. What I _can_ tell you is that there are several 
production systems currently making use of netWindows, the largest of 
which being an internal application at Kaiser Permanente, one of the 
larger health care companies in the US.

> Is netWindows production ready? Does the 0.3 mean it's still in a
> alpha state?

Depends on what you're using it for. Many of the widgets are immature 
and buggy. Others are scalable and rock solid. It's really a matter 
of what someone has pushed me to do. The core of the toolkit is 
fairly solid. I would feel very comfortable building new widgets on 
the 0.3 release, but for getting the best widgets available, I'd use 
HEAD or 0.4.0pre3. Your best bet with developing with netWindows is 
to stay involved on the list, get comfortable with the code, and bug 
me repeatedly when you need things fixed. This is a project that gets 
things done via nagging = )

> Finally, I stumbled onto another site this week, which I thought
> had some pretty cool DHTML widgets.
> http://www.isomorphic.com/

That's kinda funny. I hadn't even heard of isomorphic until I took a 
new job in San Francisco 3 months ago. It turns out that my employer 
is a heavy uesr of isomorphic widgets. I'm getting much more familiar 
with their toolkit these days (well, as far as their docs will 
allow). I won't make any stataments about the quality or effectivness 
of their toolkit (supplier recommendation slippery slope, and all 
that), but I will say that it's expensive.

> Check out the demo page.
> Can someone comment on this?
>
> Anway,
> Wishing the project well.
> Who know's.
> Maybe I'll contribute something back if I get to know it well
> enough! ;)

You wouldn't be the first. Some of our better code has come from 
outside contributers, especially Discerning Software and TSC.

Regards.

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