Re: 0.4.0pre16

Hi Dror,

thanks for your interest.

Dror Matalon wrote:

>Christian,
>
>I have noticed that you use NW on
>
>http://www.panya.de/zophe/?/products/bibliograph
>
>Are you only supporting it initially on firefox/mozilla because of NW or
>for other reasons?
>
>  
>
So far, I did not have the patience to find out why the jscript errors 
occurred or the display was botched in IE. It might be nW but also maybe 
it is my own badly written javascript or the markup. It is just a pain 
to debug javascript in an IE environment and I have decided to work on 
that at the very end - when everything runs well in firefox. ... in the 
end, I might consider not supporting IE at all. This is open source, 
after all - if people are interested in the product, they will install 
firefox ;-)  ( notice, I am not doing this for a living!!).

>Also, what are the things that worked well or didn't work well for you
>so far with NW?
>
>  
>
The inline constructor widgets and the content loading mechaninsm, and 
the signal and slots are just great. Documentation is ok, but not good 
enough if you want to use the widgets programmatically, unless you want 
to spend hours reading source code. And even then - Alex design is quite 
sophisticated. The learning curve is quite steep. I keep having trouble 
with content loading when the server side (PHP) doesn't deliver the 
right markup - for example, if PHP throws and error - nW has no way of 
knowing that and displaying it transparently. Maybe there should be an 
option to make the hidden IFRAME visible for debugging. All in all my 
experience has been very good and Alex has been very helpful! But, as 
you already know, you cannot expect an out-of-the-box solution. It is 
truly open  source  and requires a lot of time investment.

And I cannot believe my amateur application is the only nW application 
available publically on the net. :-) nW deserves better!

Best,

Christian


>Dror
>
>On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:29:20PM +0100, Christian Boulanger (Bibliograph Development) wrote:
>  
>
>>>>>You aren't missing much, but we do have several larger
>>>>>applications under the belt which have helped to inform
>>>>>requirements and drive stability. As for widespread adoption, I
>>>>>think you'll find that all of the available DHTML toolkits suffer
>>>>>to some extent from this
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I keep asking this - why aren't any of those applications on-line - at 
>>least in some protected area for developers? I would be so interested in 
>>seeing other implementations! 
>>Best, Christian 
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Bibliograph: Open Source On-line Reference Management
>>http://www.bibliograph.org
>>
>>Christian Boulanger,
>>Developer
>>
>>Email: [email protected]
>>Fax und Voicemail: +49 1212 521 703 648
>>
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Christian Boulanger,
Developer

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