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Writing code and knowledge of the software industry is not in my expertise. I have to depend on experts like you for code level of effort and cost. I really wanted to believe in the fairy tale. Sorry to hear iPhone Ecco syncing has only a $10-$40 market value. I would gladly pay $1,000 in addition to my $ $500.
BTW, I want to say as I have before, that I really appreciate your keeping Ecco alive for us long time users. It is important to me because of a ~20 year old file with tons of info that I depend on daily and add to. I run it on MacBook Pro under Parallels. Sam
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Friedhelm Dohmann [email protected] [eccopro] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Sam ...
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> It is still my dream to find a solution for the iPhone community but $10k will not do. Would you help me to find an iPhone developer who would do it for that amount?
> Friedhelm
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> On 3/25/2015 6:25 PM, Sam Shelton sam-pUoV3yp/[email protected] [eccopro] wrote:
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>> Thanks for response Friedhelm, but I was under the impression you had a quote that you had confidence in and the $10k target (I think that was goal and you reached it) was sufficient for iPhone sync. I even offered to put in another $500 if needed. I really do feel like us iPhone users were misled, or I guess you feel we were just stupid and bad losers.
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>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Friedhelm Dohmann [email protected] [eccopro] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Sorry Sam, you misunderstood! As explained at the funding site only donors with amounts over $40.00 received credit for a free MyPhoneExplorer and a free EccoPro Installer license.
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>>> With a total of only 150 donors you were not the only one who gave a lot, beside other $500.00 donors I added $2000.00 to the final bill. We exchanged mail before in this matter and again, I sincerely appreciate your significant donation to the project. But after we did the survey and after Mobisynapse asking for $40.000 bailed out, I openly explained the situation at the funding site - when we connected with FJSoft in Austria to replace Mobisynapse - that for the targeted amount we would only be able to develop a solution for the majority of Android users who responded to the 2012 survey with hopes for additional iPhone funding in the future. Beside less support as we had hoped for from some users of our Yahoo Sister Group, who for personal reasons publicly voted the project down, FJSoft tried also to connect to Slang for help and got no response.
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>>> On 3/25/2015 3:34 PM, Sam Shelton sam-pUoV3yp/[email protected] [eccopro] wrote:
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>>>> Friedhelm:
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>>>> Don’t understand your $10-$40 donation. I donated $500 for initial joint funding with the understanding that you were dedicated to developing both iPhone and Android capability I got nothing for my $500. Android users donated $10 (?) and got their desired syncing capability.
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>>>>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Friedhelm Dohmann [email protected] [eccopro] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> Bill, Lindsay ...
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>>>>> Just recently another developer showed interest to develop the iPhone synchronization software. Even with my offer to supply the Android source code his quote was unattainable.
>>>>>
>>>>> iPhone support? I would like to do it! Sadly, we do not have enough EccoPro users supporting the iPhone synchronization. The vast majority of the EccoPro users surveyed in the first half of 2012 wanted us to concentrate on an Android solution. Considering the smartphones world-wide in use and a spread of 60% Android vs 40% iPhone, we had only 150 users of about 2,500 Forum Members willing to support the Android solution of MyPhoneExplorer. For example, a $10-$40 donation goal at our CrowdFunding site http://jointfunding.org would hardly cover the lowest estimated costs of $20,000 given to me by iPhone Developers. According to them, the Apple iPhone Store creates very high hurdles for developers and considering the low interest the estimated development costs of $20,000 are out of reach.
>>>>>
>>>>> To learn more about Slang's incredible Ecco Extension you might study the "eccoext.eco" change log part of the Extension download, visit http://eccopro.com/ecco-extension/ or http://eccopro.com/news/
>>>>>
>>>>> Financial support for Slang? I would favor it and MobiSynapse (a Chinese developer with seat in California) offered it to Slang in 2012 for his help in developing the Android synchronization code. He seems very humbled or better even embarrassed at their offer. He never responded. He sees his work, his involvement a work of love to the EccoPro community.
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>>>>> Thank you Slang for your continued support!
>>>>> Friedhelm Dohmann
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>>>>> On 3/25/2015 9:13 AM, Lindsay Graham [email protected] [eccopro] wrote:
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>>>>>> Bill, I agree that such overviews would be very useful -- perhaps somewhere in the Ecco files that are maintained with this mailing list. I'd also love to see (in layman's terms) an explanation of just how EccoExt improves Ecco, what extra goodies it provides and what problems it solves. Maybe such an explanation already exists -- if so, could someone point me to it?
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>>>>>> There are 2 Ecco mailing lists, Bill (long story -- don't ask) and Friedhelm looks after the other one (copy of this email has been sent to that list). Friedhelm's company has developed MyPhoneExplorer (see http://eccopro.org/myphoneexplorer/) which syncs between Ecco and Android smartphones. Unfortunately, it doesn't extend to iPhones, but you may be interested to look nevertheless.
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>>>>>> Lindsay Graham
>>>>>> Canberra, Australia
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>>>>>>> On 25/3/15 23:31, 'B.Bailey' b.bailey-BI/[email protected] [ecco_pro] wrote:
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>>>>>>> I have been using Ecco, more or less as it came out of the box (Ver 4.01, 32 bit in the "about" box, but somewhere I have the 64 bit version, purchased from Friedhelm Dohmann). It is appreciated, depended upon, but largely ignored.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I would certainly be willing to contribute to further Ecco development, it would be helpful to me (and perhaps others) if--from time to time--one could hear overviews, summaries of "where we have been" and "where we are going" with Ecco.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may betray my ignorance, but for the future, my greatest interests are in
>>>>>>> (a) having a working and synching Ecco on an iPhone. (Yes, I know it's possible to VPN back home, but the option requires a microscope).
>>>>>>> (b) understanding the limits of the file size.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Bailey
>>>>>>>
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