Re: [ecco_pro] Re: Name confusion alert ...

Don ...



If you go to the original source of "ecce
homo" in Latin you find "behold
the man", the words of Pontius Pilatus
presenting Christ's to his accusers "ecce homo" (John
19:5). I would freely translate it with "See,
he is human".



You will find similarities
to ecco (ecce = behold) in Italian for beginning a sentence
or explanation with "see, view, have a look at" by using the
wider translation for behold the verbs "vedere " or
"guardare" with "look, watch, look at".



Also, what many do not realize is the relationship by
sound and the original source of our word "echo", Genesis
1:27, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of
God created he him; male and female created he them". He
created an "echo" of himself. You might replace the Synonym
"echo" with "copy", "repeat", "duplicate", "imitate", "mirror" etc.



Friedhelm Dohmann

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On 2/4/2016 11:34 AM, Don Dwiggins [email protected] 
[ecco_pro] wrote:













Friedhelm,



Thanks for the little language lesson. A couple of
thoughts:


with the meaning of ‘well’ or
‘well now’ when you are beginning an explanation, or
working out what to say

In recent English (American English at least), that role
is played by "so" appearing at the beginning of a
sentence, for example "Tell me about your trip. So, we
started in Italy, ...". "Well" or "Well now" in that role
is only used by older folks.



I've been wondering if the Latin "ecce" in "ecce homo" is
related to the Italian "ecco".





Don





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Subject: [ecco_pro] Re: [eccopro] Name confusion alert ...

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Date: 2/1/16 2:34 PM






Ecco
Groupies ...



Everyday spoken Italian is peppered with
little phrases and expressions which are largely
neglected in language classes with their
tendency to focus much more on grammar and
rules. Amongst the most difficult colloquial



expressions to grasp are those with multiple meanings,
such as: Ecco, a little word which
Italians use all the time, can often be difficult for
foreigners to pin down because it doesn’t have a single
equivalent in English. So here are some everyday
examples which illustrate its usage:



1. with the meaning of ‘well’ or ‘well now’ when you are
beginning an explanation, or working out what to say: Ecco,

io lavoro per il comune (well now, I work for
the council)



2. used frequently in everyday conversation as an
exclamation of agreement meaning ‘that’s right’ often
followed by appunto or esatto
(exactly): ecco, appunto! (that’s
right, exactly!)



3. with the meaning of ‘here’ or ‘there’: Eccoci

arrivati a casa (no satisfactory translation
for this into English, but it means something like ‘here we are,
we’re home’), eccovi finalmente! (there you are,
finally!), dove sei? – eccomi
(where are you? – here I am). As you can see, in this
case the word ecco is combined with
the direct personal pronoun mi, ti, lo, la, ci,
vi, li, le e.g. ecco (here/there)



+ vi (you [plural]) becomes eccovi
(here/there you are). Obviously the choice of ‘here’ or
‘there’ depends on the situation.

4. with the meaning of ‘here is /
are’ or ‘there is / are’: Ecco il
libro che mi hai prestato (here is
the book which you lent me), ecco
lassù il castello (there is
the castle up there), ecco le
tue scarpe (here are your shoes).



5. with the meaning of ‘this is’ or ‘that is’: Ecco
come vanno fatte le cose in Italia! (this is / that
is how things are done in Italy!), vuoi
il mio consiglio? eccolo (do you want my
advise? this
is / that is it).



6. with the meaning of ‘that’s why’: Giorgio:
Sono stato in vacanza per tre settimane –
Lucia: ecco perché non ti ho più
visto! (Giorgio: I’ve been on
holiday for three weeks – Lucia: that’s why
I haven’t seen you!).



7. at the end of a summary or explanation Italians
sometimes say ecco tutto (that’s
all).



8. to say that something is done, or finished Italians
often use ecco fatto (‘that’s it’ or
‘it’s done / finished’)




Ecco fatto,






Friedhelm



On 2/1/2016 10:41 AM, airchecklover wrote:








First there was Ecco shoes from Denmark (1963),
then EccoPro software from USA (1992-ish), and now
...



ECOOPRO electronics from China on Amazon. No
kidding.



(the spelling derivation is correct)



























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