Re: Windows10

"GC Gui4Cli [email protected] [gui4cli]" <[email protected]> Mon, 8 Feb 2016 15:49:41 +0200
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Hi Chris,

Does it mention anything else (in the dialogue title, etc)

Thanks




On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, [email protected] [gui4cli] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Dimitris,
>
> I changed the manifest of version 19.42 to "asInvoker" with resHacker and
> drag/drop woks fine
> in Windows 7 (I have no higher windows version running to try).
>
> From version 19.41 up, Gui4Cli seems to be lost for Windows XP users. At
> launch I get a
> WIndows message like "This is not a valid win32 application".
>
> Chris
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <gui4cli@...> wrote :
>
> Just an update - the default in the manifest is "asInvoker", ie whatever
> you choose in the compatibility tab of the file properties dialog. I had
> changed it in the manifest for some reason I can't remember and it ran in
> administrator mode no matter what you set in the compatibility tab. I fix=
ed
> it now, so that you can choose.
>
> Still, for drag and drop to work, gui4cli must not be run in
> administration mode, because the shell (desktop, file explorer etc) are r=
un
> in non-administrator mode, so drag and drop between them is forbidden.
>
> Looks like overkill from MS.
>
> Dimitris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:00 PM, GC Gui4Cli <gui4cli@...> wrote:
>
> hi Fer,
>
> You were right - its the security measures.
>
> After trying some desperate moves I read in forums, I found that all you
> had to do was change a setting in the project properties (I use VSE13), s=
o
> the linker sets the "requestedExecutionLevel" in the manifest file to
> "asInvoker" instead of "requireAdministrator" which is the default.
>
> I don't know what other repercussions this may have so I'll try it for a
> while.
>
> What I don't understand is what kind of security this provides if someone
> can just bypass it so easily.
>
> Dimitris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:33 PM, GC Gui4Cli <gui4cli@...> wrote:
>
> I think its probably to do with that, but its something I did, not a
> system setting, because drag and drop works up to version 19.39, then
> suddenly stops after version 19.40.
>
> Maybe some compiler setting... The problem is that it doesn't react at
> all, not even when I look with the debugger, like I didn't register the
> interfaces, which I know I did because I can see them working within g4c.
> Makes it difficult to find because I don't know where to start :(
>
> Dimitris
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:58 PM, fmstoopman@... [gui4cli] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Dimitris,
>
>
> The drag/drop problem is caused by the extreme security measures
>
> of windows 10. You have to disable user account control completely.
>
> So not only setting the user account control slider to a minimum (which
>
> used to work fine on XP and Win7) but also setting enableLUA in the
>
> registry to 0 (default 1). The key is:
>
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\Policies\System
>
> The big problem with this that you cannot advise this to your users
>
> because you don't know what the exact consequences are when
>
> disabling UAC completely. One thing I do know is that you have to
>
> restart your PC to let the change take effect. Bad enough.
>
>
> Maybe one day M$ will come to their senses.
>
>
> fer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>Does it mention anything else=
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div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [gui4cli] <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">gui4=
[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
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      <p>Hi Dimitris,<br><br>I changed the manifest of version 19.42 to &qu=
ot;asInvoker&quot; with resHacker and drag/drop woks fine<br>in Windows 7 (=
I have no higher windows version running to try).<br><br>From version 19.41=
 up, Gui4Cli seems to be lost for Windows XP users. At launch I get a<br>WI=
ndows message like &quot;This is not a valid win32 application&quot;.<br><b=
r>Chris<br></p><div><br><br>---In <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>, &lt;gui4cli@...&gt; wrote =
:<br><br><div><span class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr">Just an update - the defaul=
t in the manifest is=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">&quot;asInvoker&=
quot;, ie whatever you choose in the compatibility tab of the file properti=
es dialog. I had changed it in the manifest for some reason I can&#39;t rem=
ember and it ran in administrator mode no matter what you set in the compat=
ibility tab. I fixed it now, so that you can choose.</span><div><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px=
">Still, for drag and drop to work, gui4cli must not be run in administrati=
on mode, because the shell (desktop, file explorer etc) are run in non-admi=
nistrator mode, so drag and drop between them is forbidden.</span></div><di=
v><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.8px">Looks like overkill from MS.</span></div><div><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">D=
imitris</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div>=
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div></div></span><div><b=
r><blockquote><span><div><span class=3D"">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:00 PM,=
 GC Gui4Cli <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:gui4cl=
i@..." target=3D"_blank">gui4cli@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><block=
quote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid"><span class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr=
">hi Fer,<div><br></div><div>You were right - its the security measures.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>After trying some desperate moves I read in forums, =
I found that all you had to do was change a setting in the project properti=
es (I use VSE13), so the linker sets the &quot;requestedExecutionLevel&quot=
; in the manifest file to &quot;asInvoker&quot; instead of &quot;requireAdm=
inistrator&quot; which is the default.</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t=
 know what other repercussions this may have so I&#39;ll try it for a while=
.</div><div><br></div><div>What I don&#39;t understand is what kind of secu=
rity this provides if someone can just bypass it so easily.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Dimitris</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></span><div><di=
v><div><br><div><span class=3D"">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:33 PM, GC Gui4Cl=
i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:gui4cli@..." tar=
get=3D"_blank">gui4cli@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote styl=
e=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid"><span class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr">I think =
its probably to do with that, but its something I did, not a system setting=
, because drag and drop works up to version 19.39, then suddenly stops afte=
r version 19.40.<div><br></div><div>Maybe some compiler setting... The prob=
lem is that it doesn&#39;t react at all, not even when I look with the debu=
gger, like I didn&#39;t register the interfaces, which I know I did because=
 I can see them working within g4c. Makes it difficult to find because I do=
n&#39;t know where to start :(<br></div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris<br></d=
iv><div><br></div></div></span><span class=3D""><div><div><div><br><div>On =
Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:58 PM, <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:fmstoopman=
@..." target=3D"_blank">fmstoopman@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid"><u></u><div style=3D"background-color:#fff">
<span>=C2=A0</span><div><div><div><p></p><p>Hi Dimitris,</p><p><br></p><p>T=
he drag/drop problem is caused by the extreme security measures</p><p>of wi=
ndows 10. You have to disable user account control completely.</p><p>So not=
 only setting the user account control slider to a minimum (which</p><p>use=
d to work fine on XP and Win7) but also setting enableLUA in the</p><p>regi=
stry to 0 (default 1). The key is:</p><p>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cu=
rrentversion\Policies\System<br></p><p>The big problem with this that you c=
annot advise this to your users</p><p>because you don&#39;t know=C2=A0what =
the exact consequences are when</p><p>disabling UAC completely. One thing I=
 do know is that you have to</p><p>restart your PC to let the change take e=
ffect. Bad enough.</p><p><br></p><p>Maybe one day M$ will come to their sen=
ses.</p><p><br></p><p>fer</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p></p></div><span><div =
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