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Hi Chris,
Since I don't have an XP laptop handy, try this version:
http://gui4cli.com/Gui4Cli-test.exe
Apparently the problem is caused by MS trying to do away with XP. They have
set the default configuration in Visual Studio 2013 (which I use) to use
new include files which are not compatible with XP. To use XP you have to
change this and define yourself whatever new defines you want to use. They
don't tell you this - you have to find it out by searching through really
boring articles written in "coder-speak".
Hope it works
Dimitris
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:27 PM, [email protected] [gui4cli] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> I use the same zip download on Win XP and Win 7. On Win 7 it does fine.
>
> I used an old program called "FileAlyzer" to compare 19.40 and 19.42 and
> in the PE header
> I see this difference for 19.40 vs. 19.42;
>
> OS version (major): 0005
> OS version (minor): 0001
> Image version (major): 0000
> Image version (minor): 0000
> Sub system version (major): 0005
> Sub system version (minor): 0001
>
> OS version (major): 0006
> OS version (minor): 0000
> Image version (major): 0000
> Image version (minor): 0000
> Sub system version (major): 0006
> Sub system version (minor): 0000
>
> Could that perhaps causes the issue?
>
> I also can read from that analysis that there are 5 more imports from
> kernel32
> and 1 more import from user32, compared to 19.40. All others seems the
> same.
>
> Chris
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <gui4cli@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Just to get the obvious out of the way - make sure the exe file was
> properly downloaded and is not corrupt in some way and that the same file
> runs in win 7 and above.
>
> Other than that, it could be some function that was new in win 7. I get
> pointers to all new functions (after win 98) by inquiring for them at
> startup and use them only if they exist. Maybe there is one that got away=
...
>
> Thanks - Dimitris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:54 PM, chris.kevany@... [gui4cli] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> No! Just a simple message box with the program name as title. Same as whe=
n
> you
> try to run a 64-bit application on a 32-bit OS.
>
> In a hex dump of the header, it still looks normal, starting with MZ and
> the usual
> "This program cannot be run in DOS mode." stuff.
>
> Chris
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <gui4cli@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Does it mention anything else (in the dialogue title, etc)
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, chris.kevany@... [gui4cli] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Dimitris,
>
> I changed the manifest of version 19.42 to "asInvoker" with resHacker and
> drag/drop woks fine
> in Windows 7 (I have no higher windows version running to try).
>
> From version 19.41 up, Gui4Cli seems to be lost for Windows XP users. At
> launch I get a
> WIndows message like "This is not a valid win32 application".
>
> Chris
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <gui4cli@...> wrote :
>
> Just an update - the default in the manifest is "asInvoker", ie whatever
> you choose in the compatibility tab of the file properties dialog. I had
> changed it in the manifest for some reason I can't remember and it ran in
> administrator mode no matter what you set in the compatibility tab. I fix=
ed
> it now, so that you can choose.
>
> Still, for drag and drop to work, gui4cli must not be run in
> administration mode, because the shell (desktop, file explorer etc) are r=
un
> in non-administrator mode, so drag and drop between them is forbidden.
>
> Looks like overkill from MS.
>
> Dimitris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:00 PM, GC Gui4Cli <gui4cli@...> wrote:
>
> hi Fer,
>
> You were right - its the security measures.
>
> After trying some desperate moves I read in forums, I found that all you
> had to do was change a setting in the project properties (I use VSE13), s=
o
> the linker sets the "requestedExecutionLevel" in the manifest file to
> "asInvoker" instead of "requireAdministrator" which is the default.
>
> I don't know what other repercussions this may have so I'll try it for a
> while.
>
> What I don't understand is what kind of security this provides if someone
> can just bypass it so easily.
>
> Dimitris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:33 PM, GC Gui4Cli <gui4cli@...> wrote:
>
> I think its probably to do with that, but its something I did, not a
> system setting, because drag and drop works up to version 19.39, then
> suddenly stops after version 19.40.
>
> Maybe some compiler setting... The problem is that it doesn't react at
> all, not even when I look with the debugger, like I didn't register the
> interfaces, which I know I did because I can see them working within g4c.
> Makes it difficult to find because I don't know where to start :(
>
> Dimitris
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:58 PM, fmstoopman@... [gui4cli] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Dimitris,
>
>
> The drag/drop problem is caused by the extreme security measures
>
> of windows 10. You have to disable user account control completely.
>
> So not only setting the user account control slider to a minimum (which
>
> used to work fine on XP and Win7) but also setting enableLUA in the
>
> registry to 0 (default 1). The key is:
>
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\Policies\System
>
> The big problem with this that you cannot advise this to your users
>
> because you don't know what the exact consequences are when
>
> disabling UAC completely. One thing I do know is that you have to
>
> restart your PC to let the change take effect. Bad enough.
>
>
> Maybe one day M$ will come to their senses.
>
>
> fer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>Since I don't have an XP =
laptop handy, try this version:</div><div><a href=3D"http://gui4cli.com/Gui=
4Cli-test.exe">http://gui4cli.com/Gui4Cli-test.exe</a><br></div><div><br></=
div><div>Apparently the problem is caused by MS trying to do away with XP. =
They have set the default configuration in Visual Studio 2013 (which I use)=
to use new include files which are not compatible with XP. To use XP you h=
ave to change this and define yourself whatever new defines you want to use=
. They don't tell you this - you have to find it out by searching throu=
gh really boring articles written in "coder-speak".</div><div><br=
></div><div>Hope it works</div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris</div><div><br><=
/div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue=
, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:27 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">chris.k=
[email protected]</a> [gui4cli] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gui4c=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
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<span>=C2=A0</span>
<div>
<div>
<div>
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<p>I use the same zip download on Win XP and Win 7. On Win 7 it does =
fine.<br><br>I used an old program called "FileAlyzer" to compare=
19.40 and 19.42 and in the PE header<br>I see this difference for 19.40 vs=
. 19.42;<br><br>OS version (major): 0005<br>OS version (minor): 0001<br>Ima=
ge version (major): 0000<br>Image version (minor): 0000<br>Sub system versi=
on (major): 0005<br>Sub system version (minor): 0001<br><br>OS version (maj=
or): 0006<br>OS version (minor): 0000<br>Image version (major): 0000<br>Ima=
ge version (minor): 0000<br>Sub system version (major): 0006<br>Sub system =
version (minor): 0000<br><br>Could that perhaps causes the issue?<br><br>I =
also can read from that analysis that there are 5 more imports from kernel3=
2<br>and 1 more import from user32, compared to 19.40. All others seems the=
same.<br><br>Chris<br><br></p><div><br>---In <a href=3D"mailto:gui4cli@yah=
oogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>, <gui4cli@..=
.> wrote :<br><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><span cl=
ass=3D""><div>Just to get the obvious out of the way - make sure the exe fi=
le was properly downloaded and is not corrupt in some way and that the same=
file runs in win 7 and above.</div><div><br></div><div>Other than that, it=
could be some function that was new in win 7. I get pointers to all new fu=
nctions (after win 98) by inquiring for them at startup and use them only i=
f they exist. Maybe there is one that got away...</div><div><br></div><div>=
Thanks - Dimitris</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></span></div><div><div=
class=3D"h5"><div><br><blockquote><span><div>On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:54 P=
M, <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:chris.kevany@..." target=3D"_blank">c=
hris.kevany@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">gui4cli@yahoogroups.=
com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d"><u></u><div style=3D"background-color:#fff">
<span>=C2=A0</span><div><div><div><p><br></p><div>No! Just a simple message=
box with the program name as title. Same as when you<br>try to run a 64-bi=
t application on a 32-bit OS.<br><br>In a hex dump of the header, it still =
looks normal, starting with MZ and the usual<br>"This program cannot b=
e run in DOS mode." stuff.<span><br><br>Chris<br><br><br>---In <a rel=
=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">gui=
[email protected]</a>, <gui4cli@...> wrote :<br><br></span><div><s=
pan><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>Does it mention anything =
else (in the dialogue title, etc)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></span><div><div><div><br><b=
lockquote><span><div>On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <a rel=3D"nofollow" h=
ref=3D"mailto:chris.kevany@..." target=3D"_blank">chris.kevany@...</a> [gui=
4cli] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:gui4cli@yaho=
ogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote=
:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid"><u></u><div style=3D"=
background-color:#fff">
<span>=C2=A0</span><div><div><div><p>Hi Dimitris,<br><br>I changed the mani=
fest of version 19.42 to "asInvoker" with resHacker and drag/drop=
woks fine<br>in Windows 7 (I have no higher windows version running to try=
).<br><br>From version 19.41 up, Gui4Cli seems to be lost for Windows XP us=
ers. At launch I get a<br>WIndows message like "This is not a valid wi=
n32 application".<br><br>Chris<br></p><div><br><br>---In <a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">gui4cli@ya=
hoogroups.com</a>, <gui4cli@...> wrote :<br><br><div><span><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Just an update - the default in the manifest is=C2=A0<span style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px">"asInvoker", ie whatever you choose in the =
compatibility tab of the file properties dialog. I had changed it in the ma=
nifest for some reason I can't remember and it ran in administrator mod=
e no matter what you set in the compatibility tab. I fixed it now, so that =
you can choose.</span><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Still, for drag and drop to work, g=
ui4cli must not be run in administration mode, because the shell (desktop, =
file explorer etc) are run in non-administrator mode, so drag and drop betw=
een them is forbidden.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b=
r></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Looks like overkill fr=
om MS.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><=
div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Dimitris</span></div><div><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px=
"><br></span></div></div></span><div><br><blockquote><span><div><span>On Mo=
n, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:00 PM, GC Gui4Cli <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" href=3D"mailto:gui4cli@..." target=3D"_blank">gui4cli@...</a>></s=
pan> wrote:<br></span><blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid"><spa=
n><div dir=3D"ltr">hi Fer,<div><br></div><div>You were right - its the secu=
rity measures.</div><div><br></div><div>After trying some desperate moves I=
read in forums, I found that all you had to do was change a setting in the=
project properties (I use VSE13), so the linker sets the "requestedEx=
ecutionLevel" in the manifest file to "asInvoker" instead of=
"requireAdministrator" which is the default.</div><div><br></div=
><div>I don't know what other repercussions this may have so I'll t=
ry it for a while.</div><div><br></div><div>What I don't understand is =
what kind of security this provides if someone can just bypass it so easily=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></di=
v></span><div><div><div><br><div><span>On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:33 PM, GC =
Gui4Cli <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:gui4cli@..=
." target=3D"_blank">gui4cli@...</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquot=
e style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid"><span><div dir=3D"ltr">I think its p=
robably to do with that, but its something I did, not a system setting, bec=
ause drag and drop works up to version 19.39, then suddenly stops after ver=
sion 19.40.<div><br></div><div>Maybe some compiler setting... The problem i=
s that it doesn't react at all, not even when I look with the debugger,=
like I didn't register the interfaces, which I know I did because I ca=
n see them working within g4c. Makes it difficult to find because I don'=
;t know where to start :(<br></div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris<br></div><d=
iv><br></div></div></span><span><div><div><div><br><div>On Mon, Jan 25, 201=
6 at 3:58 PM, <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:fmstoopman@..." target=3D"=
_blank">fmstoopman@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">gui4cli@yahoo=
groups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #c=
cc solid"><u></u><div style=3D"background-color:#fff">
<span>=C2=A0</span><div><div><div><p></p><p>Hi Dimitris,</p><p><br></p><p>T=
he drag/drop problem is caused by the extreme security measures</p><p>of wi=
ndows 10. You have to disable user account control completely.</p><p>So not=
only setting the user account control slider to a minimum (which</p><p>use=
d to work fine on XP and Win7) but also setting enableLUA in the</p><p>regi=
stry to 0 (default 1). The key is:</p><p>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cu=
rrentversion\Policies\System<br></p><p>The big problem with this that you c=
annot advise this to your users</p><p>because you don't know=C2=A0what =
the exact consequences are when</p><p>disabling UAC completely. One thing I=
do know is that you have to</p><p>restart your PC to let the change take e=
ffect. Bad enough.</p><p><br></p><p>Maybe one day M$ will come to their sen=
ses.</p><p><br></p><p>fer</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p></p></div><span><div =
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