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<br class="yui-cursor"><div class="ygroups-quoted">Hi Dimistris,<br><br>I probably found the cause of the Windows XP issue but unfortunately cannot fix it.<br>It most likely has to to with my CPU that doesn't support SSE2 instructions.<br>(Athlon XP2000+). Your XP laptop probably has a P4 or higher CPU that does support SSE2.<br><br>At every Gui4Cli crash, the DrWatson log comes up with a invalid instruction (movsdx) which<br>is only available with SSE2.<br><br>Perhaps you can set a compiler switch to not use SSE2 or I can try to find an old mobo<br>with a P4 CPU on it :)<br><br>It seems that up to version 19.40, no SSE2 instructions were used so I guess it has to do<br>with your switch-over to VC++ 2012.<br><br>Thanks for your efforts,<br><br>Chris<br><br><br>---In gui4cli@yahoogroups
.com, <chris.kevany@...> wrote :<br><br><div id="ygrps-yiv-921474937"><br class="ygrps-yiv-921474937yui-cursor"><div class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygroups-quoted">Hi Dimitris,<br><br>I've tried the test2 version but still have the same issues. I run Windows XP SP 3.<br><br>I recently had to re-install Windows XP because of a crash but cannot do all the hot fixes<br>that may be installed on your old XP system (if any). Perhaps it has something to do with that?<br><br>I removed all VC++ redistributables but that didn't help. 19.40 however still runs fine without them.<br><br>My system also has "Visual Studio 2012 x86 redistributables" installed. I thought I did this<br>myself but after I removed it, it appeared that AVG did it and I had to re-install AVG.<br><br>I'l
l spend some more time on it to find out what's wrong and if I have success I'll let you know.<br><br>Chris<br><br><br>---In [email protected], <gui4cli@...> wrote :<br><br><div id="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975"><div dir="ltr">Hi Chris<div><br></div><div>I found my old XP laptop (I'd given it to a friend) and tried version 19.42 and it runs fine. I tried most tutorials, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>I did not install any redistributables - just XP as I had it then.</div><div><br></div><div>I re-uploaded the version I ran to make sure its the same one we both have:</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://gui4cli.com/Gui4Cli-test2.exe">http://gui4cli.com/Gui4Cli-test2.exe</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>If you get a chance please try it a
lso.</div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris</div><div><br></div></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975gmail_extra"><br><blockquote><span class=""><blockquote><span class="ygrps-yiv-921474937"><div class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM, GC Gui4Cli <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:gui4cli@...">gui4cli@...</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the feedback. </div><div><br></div><div>You are right that trying to support XP is becoming a futile exercise, specially since MS itself is sabotaging it. We'll see
. If I can find an xp laptop I may give it another try.</div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975HOEnZb"><div class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975h5"><div class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975gmail_extra"><br><div class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 12:15 PM, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:chris.kevany@...">chris.kevany@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ygrps-yiv-921474937ygrps-yiv-400277975gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>
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<span> </span><div><div><div><p>Hi Dimitris,<br><br>Thanks for your attempts to fix the Windows XP issue. It initially works now<br>but there are several issues. I tried it on the example guis. Some work<br>but Gui4Cli crashes on most of them when loaded. Some of the working guis<br>crash when certain options are chosen and all crash on exit. Gui4Cli itself<br>also crashes when I right-click on the taskbar icon. SciED runs but refuses<br>to load guis on drop and crashes when I try to open the load dialog.<br>I have the VC++ 2013 redistributable installed.<br><br>Having in mind that you cannot test it yourself on XP anymore, I guess it<br>will save you a lot of trouble to consider XP as a passed station and set<br>the minimum Gui4Cli requirements to Windows 7.<br><br>I would advice pot
ential users that are still on Windows XP to install<br>"G4C_19_38_FULL.exe" and replace the Gui4Cli executable and dll with<br>version 19.40. That offers already a wealth of features and options :)<br><br>For me version 19.42 (with the small "asInvoker" change) works fine on<br>Windows 7. I didn't test the new features yet but al my existing guis<br>work as before. I use the same basic 19.38 install there and only<br>replaced the 19.40 executable for 19.42.<br><br>Thanks again,<br><br>Chris <br></p><div><br><br>---In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <gui4cli@...> wrote :<br><br><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><span><div>Since I don't have an XP laptop handy, try this version
:</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://gui4cli.com/Gui4Cli-test.exe">http://gui4cli.com/Gui4Cli-test.exe</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Apparently the problem is caused by MS trying to do away with XP. They have set the default configuration in Visual Studio 2013 (which I use) to use new include files which are not compatible with XP. To use XP you have to change this and define yourself whatever new defines you want to use. They don't tell you this - you have to find it out by searching through really boring articles written in "coder-speak".</div><div><br></div><div>Hope it works</div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris</div><div><br></div></span></div><div><div><div><br><blockquote><span><div>On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:27 PM, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank
" href="mailto:chris.kevany@...">chris.kevany@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><u></u><div style="background-color:#fff;">
<span> </span><div><div><div><p>I use the same zip download on Win XP and Win 7. On Win 7 it does fine.<br><br>I used an old program called "FileAlyzer" to compare 19.40 and 19.42 and in the PE header<br>I see this difference for 19.40 vs. 19.42;<br><br>OS version (major): 0005<br>OS version (minor): 0001<br>Image version (major): 0000<br>Image version (minor): 0000<br>Sub system version (major): 0005<br>Sub system version (minor): 0001<br><br>OS version (major): 0006<br>OS version (minor): 0000<br>Image version (major): 0000<br>Image version (minor): 0000<br>Sub system version (major): 0006<br>Sub system version (minor): 0000<br><br>Could that perhaps causes the issue?<br><br>I also can read from that analysis that there are 5 more imports from kernel32<br>and 1 more import
from user32, compared to 19.40. All others seems the same.<br><br>Chris<br><br></p><div><br>---In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <gui4cli@...> wrote :<br><br><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><span><div>Just to get the obvious out of the way - make sure the exe file was properly downloaded and is not corrupt in some way and that the same file runs in win 7 and above.</div><div><br></div><div>Other than that, it could be some function that was new in win 7. I get pointers to all new functions (after win 98) by inquiring for them at startup and use them only if they exist. Maybe there is one that got away...</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks - Dimitris</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></span></div><div><
div><div><br><blockquote><span><div>On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:54 PM, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:chris.kevany@...">chris.kevany@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><u></u><div style="background-color:#fff;">
<span> </span><div><div><div><p><br></p><div>No! Just a simple message box with the program name as title. Same as when you<br>try to run a 64-bit application on a 32-bit OS.<br><br>In a hex dump of the header, it still looks normal, starting with MZ and the usual<br>"This program cannot be run in DOS mode." stuff.<span><br><br>Chris<br><br><br>---In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <gui4cli@...> wrote :<br><br></span><div><span><div dir="ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>Does it mention anything else (in the dialogue title, etc)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></span><div><div><div><br><blockquote><span><div>On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <a re
l="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:chris.kevany@...">chris.kevany@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><u></u><div style="background-color:#fff;">
<span> </span><div><div><div><p>Hi Dimitris,<br><br>I changed the manifest of version 19.42 to "asInvoker" with resHacker and drag/drop woks fine<br>in Windows 7 (I have no higher windows version running to try).<br><br>From version 19.41 up, Gui4Cli seems to be lost for Windows XP users. At launch I get a<br>WIndows message like "This is not a valid win32 application".<br><br>Chris<br></p><div><br><br>---In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <gui4cli@...> wrote :<br><br><div><span><div dir="ltr">Just an update - the default in the manifest is <span style="font-size:12.8px;">"asInvoker", ie whatever you choose in the compatibility tab of the file properties dialog. I had changed
it in the manifest for some reason I can't remember and it ran in administrator mode no matter what you set in the compatibility tab. I fixed it now, so that you can choose.</span><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;">Still, for drag and drop to work, gui4cli must not be run in administration mode, because the shell (desktop, file explorer etc) are run in non-administrator mode, so drag and drop between them is forbidden.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;">Looks like overkill from MS.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;">Dimitris</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><br></span></div><div>
<span style="font-size:12.8px;"><br></span></div></div></span><div><br><blockquote><span><div><span>On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:00 PM, GC Gui4Cli <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:gui4cli@...">gui4cli@...</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><span><div dir="ltr">hi Fer,<div><br></div><div>You were right - its the security measures.</div><div><br></div><div>After trying some desperate moves I read in forums, I found that all you had to do was change a setting in the project properties (I use VSE13), so the linker sets the "requestedExecutionLevel" in the manifest file to "asInvoker" instead of "requireAdministrator" which is the default.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't know what o
ther repercussions this may have so I'll try it for a while.</div><div><br></div><div>What I don't understand is what kind of security this provides if someone can just bypass it so easily.</div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></span><div><div><div><br><div><span>On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:33 PM, GC Gui4Cli <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:gui4cli@...">gui4cli@...</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><span><div dir="ltr">I think its probably to do with that, but its something I did, not a system setting, because drag and drop works up to version 19.39, then suddenly stops after version 19.40.<div><br></div><div>Maybe some compiler setting... The problem is that it doe
sn't react at all, not even when I look with the debugger, like I didn't register the interfaces, which I know I did because I can see them working within g4c. Makes it difficult to find because I don't know where to start :(<br></div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris<br></div><div><br></div></div></span><span><div><div><div><br><div>On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:58 PM, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:fmstoopman@...">fmstoopman@...</a> [gui4cli] <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><u></u><div style="background-color:#fff;">
<span> </span><div><div><div><p></p><p>Hi Dimitris,</p><p><br></p><p>The drag/drop problem is caused by the extreme security measures</p><p>of windows 10. You have to disable user account control completely.</p><p>So not only setting the user account control slider to a minimum (which</p><p>used to work fine on XP and Win7) but also setting enableLUA in the</p><p>registry to 0 (default 1). The key is:</p><p>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\Policies\System<br></p><p>The big problem with this that you cannot advise this to your users</p><p>because you don't know what the exact consequences are when</p><p>disabling UAC completely. One thing I do know is that you have to</p><p>restart your PC to let the change take effect. Bad enough.</p><p><
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