Re: Speed

> I'll send your list to Ballmer. :)

I appreciate that.  :)  But...thousands of programmers hitching their
development wagon to the whims of one single business man seems just wrong
these days.

Mike

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Brad Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:

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> I'll send your list to Ballmer. :)
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> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Just make it faster please.  What of any interest has been added since
>> 2003?
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>> Everything new added to C# was already better in JavaScript and other
>> languages, and while things like generics are good, they are so very noisy
>> and ugly in C#.  Everything new added to ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> was
>> overshadowed by Ajax.  Everything new added to VS was overshadowed by
>> ReSharper and others.
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>> Some new things are good.  The addition of F#, Ruby, and Python to the VS
>> world is exciting, though personally I'd give a much higher priority to
>> adding a little intellisense and refactoring support for JavaScript, since
>> that's what we have immediate need for.  MVC is good.
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>> If you really want to give us new stuff, then give us something exciting,
>> like the iPhone!  We want a way to send our own ideas out into the mobile
>> world, and maybe even make some coin.
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>> And just get rid of IE, entirely.  I'm serious, it's an active negative
>> for the entire planet.
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>>  Mike
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>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Brad Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>  "Make it faster" or "add new features"?
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>>> Pick one. :)
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>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Joe O'Leary <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>>>  Unfortunately VS2008 is a dog, even on fast machines, IMO.  Worse than
>>>> 2005 which was worse than 2003.  I really wish they would improve the
>>>> performance for once.  If the new one is changing a lot, it is probably
>>>> going to be an even bigger dog
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: Anna-Jayne Metcalfe <[email protected]>
>>>> >Sent: Jul 10, 2009 9:33 PM
>>>> >To: [email protected]
>>>> >Subject: RE: [OT] Speed
>>>> >
>>>> >Hi Mike,
>>>> >
>>>> >> Is Windows 7 going to be faster than XP?  Is VS 2010 going to be
>>>> faster
>>>> >than the preceding versions?  I'm seeing very positive reviews of these
>>>> new
>>>> >products, but nobody ever talks about speed, which is the only thing I
>>>> care
>>>> >about.
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>>>> >If our testing is anything to go by, Win7 is comparable to XP in
>>>> performance
>>>> >and if other reports are accurate is certainly capable of running on a
>>>> >smaller footprint than Vista. It's certainly worth a look if you're
>>>> bringing
>>>> >in new machines (I'm not a fan of OS upgrades).
>>>> >
>>>> >VS2010 is another matter. The verdict is not yet in on the new WPF
>>>> based
>>>> >editor, but my gut feeling (and based on what I've seen from beta
>>>> >installations) I'd say that VS2010 is going to have a significantly
>>>> bigger
>>>> >footprint than VS2008, and the volume of change in this release may
>>>> have
>>>> >some consequences in the RTM.
>>>> >
>>>> >It has always seemed to me that Visual Studio releases follow a
>>>> two-step
>>>> >pattern - one release where they try to change too much (VS5, VS2002,
>>>> >VS2005) followed by which consolidates the changes of the previous
>>>> release
>>>> >(VS6, VS2003, VS2008). My instincts tell me that VS2010 may
>>>> (unfortunately)
>>>> >be in the former camp. The plus side of that is of course that the next
>>>> >release after VS2010 - call it VS2012 for now - will probably be a good
>>>> one.
>>>> >
>>>> >I can't help with Silverlight etc. I'm afraid - I'm a native C++ dev.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Cheers,
>>>> >
>>>> >       Anna x
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