Re: The BICC Scheme
"Adrian Vintu adrianvintu-/[email protected] [win_tech_off_topic]" <[email protected]> Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:27:13 +0000 (UTC)
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Hi John,
1. Contrast is reasonable to me.2. I get your point. Still, to me an unsign=
aled(white) site is a site that is "good", not "unknown". A matter of diffe=
rent experiences/tastes I guess.Example.html looks surprisingly good, compa=
red to the errors.php :)
BR,Adrian
From: "John Elliot V [email protected] [win_tech_off_topic]" <win_tech_off_=
[email protected]>
To: [email protected]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] The BICC Scheme
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=C2=A0 On 19/11/14 02:00, Adrian Vintu adrianvintu-/[email protected] > Nice idea =
you
have here :)
Thanks mate. :)
> 1. What happens when the data is public (red background) AND invalid
> (red rectangle)?
It looks OK because the pastel red and the solid red contrast properly.
I put together an error examples page for you:
http://www.biccscheme.com/errors.php
> 2. Why is Unknown white? Should it not be red++?
Good question! I thought pretty hard about that.
One thing that becomes apparent when you try to implement the BICC
scheme is that it's actually really hard to audit all of your data and
make a determination about the publication status of the data. So I need
to leave in the possibility of "no comment" on the publication status
because it might not always be known.
If I used red for unknown you could have situations where data that is
actually private is marked as red because it hasn't been audited
properly yet.
Also, most sites don't implement the BICC scheme and use white
backgrounds. So in a sense they are compatible.
I was a little bit concerned at first that this scheme might end up
butchering the UI and making it look like a ransom note, but I've been
pleasantly surprised by the results. They actually look pretty good. The
colour adds a nice dimension. Here's an early example:
http://www.biccscheme.com/res/example/bicc-example.html
Regards,
John Elliot V
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E: [email protected]
P: +61 4 3505 7839
W: https://www.jj5.net/
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<p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13827" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13877">Hi John,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13827" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13827" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13844">1. Contrast is reasonable to me.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13827" dir="ltr">2. I get your point. Still, to me an unsignaled(white) site is a site that is "good", not "unknown". A matter of different experiences/tastes I guess.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13827" dir="ltr">Example.html looks surprisingly good, compared to the errors.php :)<br></div><div id="yu
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weight: bold;">To:</span></b> [email protected] <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:37 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OT] The BICC Scheme<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13832"><br><div id="yiv7338848503"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13834">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416388647368_13833">On 19/11/14 02:00, Adrian Vintu adrianvintu-/[email protected] > Nice idea you<br clear="none">
have here :)<br clear="none">
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Thanks mate. :)<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
> 1. What happens when the data is public (red background) AND invalid<br clear="none">
> (red rectangle)?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
It looks OK because the pastel red and the solid red contrast properly.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I put together an error examples page for you:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
http://www.biccscheme.com/errors.php<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
> 2. Why is Unknown white? Should it not be red++?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Good question! I thought pretty hard about that.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
One thing that becomes apparent when you try to implement the BICC<br clear="none">
scheme is that it's actually really hard to audit all of your data and<br clear="none">
make a determination about the publication status of the data. So I need<br clear="none">
to leave in the possibility of "no comment" on the publication status<br clear="none">
because it might not always be known.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
If I used red for unknown you could have situations where data that is<br clear="none">
actually private is marked as red because it hasn't been audited<br clear="none">
properly yet.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Also, most sites don't implement the BICC scheme and use white<br clear="none">
backgrounds. So in a sense they are compatible.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I was a little bit concerned at first that this scheme might end up<br clear="none">
butchering the UI and making it look like a ransom note, but I've been<br clear="none">
pleasantly surprised by the results. They actually look pretty good. The<br clear="none">
colour adds a nice dimension. Here's an early example:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
http://www.biccscheme.com/res/example/bicc-example.html<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Regards,<br clear="none">
John Elliot V<br clear="none">
-- <br clear="none">
E: [email protected]<br clear="none">
P: +61 4 3505 7839<br clear="none">
W: https://www.jj5.net/<br clear="none">
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display: block;
margin-bottom: 5px;
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text-decoration: none;
}
blockquote {
margin: 0 0 0 4px;
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font-family: Arial;
font-size: 13px;
font-weight: 700;
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text-decoration: none;
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font-weight: 700;
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margin-right: 10px;
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
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margin-right: 0;
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text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table {
width: 400px;
}
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text-decoration: none;
}
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text-decoration: none;
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font-size: 10px;
font-weight: normal;
}
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color: #628c2a;
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margin: 0 0 0 0;
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font-size: 0;
}
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float: left;
width: 72px;
}
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border: 1px solid #666666;
height: 62px;
overflow: hidden;
width: 62px;
}
#photos div label {
color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
white-space: nowrap;
width: 64px;
}
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font-size: 77%;
}
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font-size: 77%;
}
.replbq {
margin: 4px;
}
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/* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/
margin-right: 2px;
padding-right: 5px;
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font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
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font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
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font:115% monospace;
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padding-bottom: 10px;
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font-family: Verdana;
}
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color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
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color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
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font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
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font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
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margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
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font-family: Georgia;
}
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margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
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