Re: Show of hands

Mike Novia <[email protected]> Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:33:14 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.windows.shell-shocked.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
kinda funny you guys mention the 3d thing. The project i was working  
on for a while, technically wasn't a real shell i guess, it just hid  
the startbar, desktop.. and ran my version of that on top of it.  
Getting below that stuff starts to confuse me, since im a designer  
not a coder.

Anyway i was trying to use some various 3d engines i found to expand  
on my 'dream shell' to execute cool visuals.

This seemed to be a memory hog and not really worth it :)

I use xoblite at home on my win laptop - otherwise i am all OSX now a  
days..

However, i found that this generally
On Aug 15, 2007, at 7:29 PM, Chris Sutcliffe wrote:

> 'lo folks,
>
>> So what kind of areas would be of broad interest? Vista  
>> compatibility, check.
>> Related SysTray changes, check. "Install as shell" functionality,  
>> check.
>> Multithreading stuff perhaps. Possibly DDE if that still matters  
>> today (?). And
>> so on. Anything else? (I'm tired atm so I could only come up with  
>> the obvious stuff)
>
> I think that pretty much sums up the common interests.  Perhaps the
> holy grail of actually getting SetShellWindow to work properly with
> Explore / File Open / File Save dialogues would be cool as well.
>
>> Finally, maybe we should also share our views on "the future of  
>> the alternative
>> shell", because with each year that passes by it seems that our  
>> combined
>> community shrinks a bit more (or perhaps it's just being  
>> diluted?!) Will it
>> still be worth the hard work 1-2-3 years from now? How will *your*  
>> shell evolve?
>> How will the rise of Vista, MacOS X 10.5 Leopard and Linux with  
>> Compiz Fusion
>> affect us? Is there a place for alternative shells stuck in a 2D  
>> world when the
>> regular desktop goes 3D? Is a move to .NET inevitable also for us  
>> in the
>> medium/long term if we want to stay competitive? Maybe some new  
>> hotshot
>> developer will suddenly appear and blow us all out of the water  
>> with mad 3D
>> skillz? ;)
>
> I think that the commonly used system functions (i.e. the undocumented
> ones what I believe we all use), it common across shells, regardless
> of the implementation language.  Like I mentioned, I've been
> collaborating with BilliBerserker from the SharpE camp, which develop
> using Delphi, where as Emerge is implemented in C/C++.
>
> As for 3D, that doesn't hold a lot of interest for me, personally I'm
> waiting for holographic or virtual reality shells.  :P
>
> Cheers!
>
> Chris
>
> -- 
> Chris Sutcliffe
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