Re: How are different ATI drivers related ?

Thanks for that. I am a little less confused ! I still think GATOS is a 
type of French cake :-)

However, I noticed from you web site it says :

Cards earlier than the ATI 3D Rage Pro don't have a triangle setup 
engine and are not supported. This includes ... and ATI 3D Rage Mobility

?!?! what does this mean ?

How am I going to paly Tux Racer if they are not supported :-(

Well, time for the big one ! Download, build and install - I may need 
some help here :-) pretty please !

Thanks,
Owen

Leif Delgass wrote:
>  
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Owen Savill wrote:
> 
> 
>>I couldn't agree more !!!
>>
>>I have an ATI Rage Mobility Pro chipset. This was 3D accelerated in 
>>3.3.6 but not in 4.0. There seems to be so many ATI drivers / modules / 
>>kernel options / ATI's own stuff that the picture for me to try and 
>>resolve if any one is still looking at 3D on this chipset is extremely 
>>difficult.
> 
> 
> I can help you out there, I've been working on the DRI support for mach64
> along with Jose Fonseca, so yes it is being actively developed.  Mach64
> (incl. Rage Mobility P/M,L) has 3D support for 4.x in a branch of the DRI
> project.  I think Utah-GLX has the beginnings of 4.x support as well, but
> I don't know the current status of that.  Snapshots of the DRI driver are
> available here:
> 
> http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/bleeding-edge/
> 
> Info on status and features of the DRI driver can be found here:
> http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/feature_table.html
> 
> ...and on my site here:
> http://www.retinalburn.net/linux/dri_status.html
> 
> There is XVideo overlay support for mach64 in the XFree86 4.x kdrive 
> driver, but not the standard 'ati' driver yet.  The gatos driver has 
> mach64 support for overlay as well as tv-in and capture support for 
> mach64 All-in-Wonder cards.  I also have a driver based on the DRI branch 
> with the GATOS driver merged in here:
> 
> http://www.retinalburn.net/linux/dri_xv.html
> 
> Merging the gatos code was pretty trivial, as it's basically 
> self-contained in separate source files from the rest of the DDX driver.
> 
> Eventually, the 3D support should get merged into the mainline XFree86
> driver.  We have some DMA issues still to work out in the DRI driver --
> namely security and ppc support -- and then the DRI driver will get merged
> into the DRI trunk.  From there it should get merged into a future XFree86
> release and the GATOS project can pick up the 3D support.  As I mentioned,
> adding the XVideo overlay support is pretty trivial, and it's been very
> stable for me (it's been around in the GATOS driver for quite some time
> now), so I don't see why that couldn't be merged into the mainline XFree86
> driver as well.  As far as tv-in and capture goes, that part of the GATOS
> code seems to be more of a moving target, so that functionality will
> probably only be available through the GATOS project -- at least until
> things stabilize more.  I tend to think of the DRI and GATOS projects as
> branches of XFree86.  At any rate, that's my 2 cents -- what gets merged
> into XFree86 will depend on the XFree86 developers.
> 
> So, with any luck I haven't made things more confusing than they already 
> were. ;)
> 
> 
>>Your list is missing at least one other that I know of, namely Utah-GLX !
>>
>>Owen
>>
>>David Balazic wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>As a future ATI Radeon 8500 owner :-) I wonder about the different
>>>available drivers :
>>>
>>> - xfree86
>>> - dri
>>> - gatos
>>> - ati.com
>>>
>>>How are they related ?
>>>Do the serve the same purpose or every one does its own part ?
>>>( read : do I install one of them or do I combine them ? )
>>>Is there any overlap in functionality/features ? Code ?
>>>Is gatos fully free/open ?
>>>How about ATI.com ? Binary only ?
>>>Are those FAQ's ?
>>>And finally , what is the best ( combination of ) driver(s) out of
>>>those ( are there any others ? ) for an end user ?
>>>
>>>Regards, TIA and party on,
>>>david balazic
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