Re: RE: Re: A strawman proposal for X.org & XFree86.org

On Wednesday 02 April 2003 12:08, Gadeyne, Koen wrote:
|  > -----Original Message-----
|  > From: David Dawes [mailto:[email protected]]
|  > Sent: dinsdag 1 april 2003 20:00
|  > To: [email protected]
|  > Subject: Re: [forum] Re: A strawman proposal for X.org & XFree86.org
|  >
|  > On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 07:23:47PM +0400, Vadim Plessky wrote:
|  > >This can explain while XFree86 development was so slow
|  > (comparing to progress
|  > >of other open-source, desktop-oriented projects).
|  > >It's a well-known situation of "Shoemaker without shoes".
|  > >If someone wants cooperation among XFree86, GNOME and KDE -
|  > XFree86 developers
|  > >(especially *core developers*) should use GNOME and KDE, so
|  > tha needs of
|  > >those environments become visible.
|  >
|  > So you don't think it's reasonable that if GNOME and KDE have
|  > specific requirements then those who are developers/advocates of
|  > those desktops make sure that they get implemented?  There seems
|  > to be a pervading myth that XFree86 developers are here to serve
|  > your needs, when in reality it works the other way around: those
|  > with needs to be served become XFree86 developers(*) and serve their
|  > own needs.  Ask any of those "core developers" why they became
|  > XFree86 developers?  My answer is that I had a need, so I did what
|  > was necessary to achieve it.
|  >
|  > (*) "become XFree86 developer" means write XFree86 code, so don't drag
|  > in any of the usual red herrings like "membership", "commit
|  > access", etc.
|
|  I can only second that. I once was what David calls an "XFree86
| developer": I had an unsupported Tseng card, and "scratched the itch": I
| wrote a small patch to add (very basic) support.
|
[...]
|
|  The only reason the XFree86 developer's community seems so closed is
| because there are so little of them. That's YOUR fault, people: only CODING
| will get you in, not COMPLAINING.

It seems you ignore other alternatives by default .
What about ditching XFree86 completly and using, say, QT/Embedded or GTK with 
Framebuffer?
Have you ever thought about this?
And about the fact that many developers would be much more interested in such 
scenario?

|
|  Koen.
|
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Vadim Plessky
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