Re: Discussing issues

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote:

> Mark Vojkovich <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > > Be careful about putting forth your perceptions about what someone else 
> > > is trying to do and casting them as 'facts'. You are not Keith, so you 
> > > have no right to state as fact what you percieve Keith's intentions are 
> > > (or anyone else for that matter).
> > 
> >     Feel free to present evidence that contradicts my statement.
> 
> I don't see any evidence to back up your claims either. All the supposed 
> evidence is locked away in private email discussions and mailing lists. 
> Keith has requested again that the mailing list be opened up so we can 
> all read it and judge for ourselves, but that hasn't happened yet, so it 
> leaves us sitting here on the sidelines trying to figure out where we 
> should head with very little to go on.

   The evidence is not locked away anywhere.   Keith did not expressed
his concerns in any forum I was on.  Not on public XFree86 lists,
not on the core list, not to me privately.  I did not hear of his
concerns until after hearing of the immiment fork.  The evidence
is that there is no evidence of Keith trying to solve these problems
within XFree86, only a request for replacement of the current 
governance of XFree86 using these problems as arguements in support
of that action.  All that the private emails will show is that Keith
denied the plans of a fork when directly asked, and also that
some core members were truely baffled by his course of action
when evidence to the contrary was submitted.

   I wish we could agree that problems with the way people can
contribute to the XFree86 project are the problems we are trying
to solve.  Those are solvable problems and ones I would like to 
get solved.  But even reasonable people usually do not respond well 
to threats. 


			Mark