RE: Discussing issues

> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Billy Biggs Mark 
> Vojkovich ([email protected]):
> 
> > Personally, I am happy to have another project drive standards and
> > leave XFree86 to trying to be the best implementation.  I think 
> > XFree86 has enough work just trying to ensure that it has the 
> > infrastructure in place to be the best X11 implementation 
> and pursuing
> > that goal, which is the only one we've agreed to.
> 
>   Besides standards work, I think the governance seekers are
> looking to fill a perceived lack of leadership.  The 
> statements from both you and David Dawes tell me that 
> deciding which patches are accepted into XFree86's tree is a 
> sufficient amount of leadership for this project.  I hear the 
> tone of "XFree86 has no policy beyond the code itself".
> 
>   I think this is sufficient, but at face it shows a lack of
> interest in seeking consensus among developers regarding 
> project direction (or lack thereof), and I think this has 
> caused some to see XFree86 as a broken project.

If anything, there is consensus about what Mark describes.

>  More
> publicly visible leadership roles, such as splitting drivers 
> and handing the off to designated maintainers, or considering 
> parts of Havoc's more drastic proposals, might really help to 
> achieve consensus among developers about their goals and directions.

Has everyone forgotten the effort that went
into the loadable modules/driver API and
infrastructure?  This wouldn't have happened
without leadership.  Much of that leadership
is in the form of well thought out architecture
and follow through on finishing the implementation.

In a practical sense, the essential element
of consensus and goals is that of getting a
release out, and that depends far more on
strength of working relationships than
allignment of motivation.  Team members will
always have unique interestes in hardware or
portions of the server.  However, the ability
to get a release out together tends to
determine the final results.

Is your concern release engineering or development?

Rich

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