Re: the removal of Packard

Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Fre, 2003-03-21 at 21:52, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 03:30:08PM -0500, G O Economou wrote:
>>
>>>>David, you have been out of touch with the project for years and I'm
>>>
>>>afraid
>>>
>>>>it shows. Red Hat contributed the working Cyrix mediagx driver, four
>>>>input drivers and various other bits to XFree86 4.3, Red Hat is working
>>>>hard with at least one major vendor unused to the open source world to
>>>
>>>get 
>>>
>>>>support into the next XFree86. Red Hat engineers work on cleaning up DRI,
>>>>getting it into the base kernels, chasing corruptions and stopping vendors
>>>>from quiting XFree86 work because they are sick of the hassle of getting
>>>>stuff into base XFree86.
>>>
>>>According to the DRI site, Tungsten Graphics, for which the flunkie Frank
>>>spoke
>>>yesterday does that.  Now Redhat does it.  Seems everyone does it.
>>
>>The DRI kernel code Tungsten delivers is usually far from the kernel
>>standards.  
> 
> 
> You seem to take every oportunity to rant about this. Are you aware that
> the DRM is trying to share code between different OSs for example,
> possibly with different standards?
> 
> 
>>Kernel hackers (often from Red Hat) spend significant amounts of time 
>>to fix it up and still is usually in a far worse shape than other kernel 
>>code..
> 
> 
> I find it funny that I rarely if ever see these enhancements on the
> dri-devel list, where the DRM maintainers are.

Additionally, these changes don't seem to be making it into 2.5, as there is 
very little divergence between 2.5 and dri cvs, at least last time I checked.

Keith