RE: DRI/DRM (WAS: the removal of Packard)

Please let's all keep in mind that DRI/DRM is NOT XFree86. It's a separate
project owned and run by a largely disparate set of people. Just keep these
things in mind when pointing fingers and making examples.

Thanks

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christoph Hellwig
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:41 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [forum] the removal of Packard
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:54:57PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > Are you aware that
> > the DRM is trying to share code between different OSs for example, 
> > possibly with different standards?
> 
> Yes.  And I see how badly it's done. Take a look at XFS which 
> is a project I work on during daytime and see how it's 
> written for IRIX APIs and works for Linux nicely without 
> beeing as horribly ugly as drm.
> 
> But it's not just the ugly code, drm has lots of other issues 
> like silent changes of ioctl ABIs between XFree releases, and 
> very often there seems to be a lack of understanding the 
> Linux APIs (e.g. many driver oopsed for a while because they 
> hadn't the unlock_page prototype and thus got the calling 
> convetion wrong, it opencoded some kernel functionality I 
> don't remember anymore and thus broke when the implementation 
> was changed, etc..)
> 
> Another very bad thing about the DRI kernel code is the CVS 
> menality. If the DRI folks would submit one patch for a 
> change thos things could be fixed a lot easier (and earlier!) 
> instead of the big merges happening from time to time.
> 
> > I find it funny that I rarely if ever see these enhancements on the 
> > dri-devel list, where the DRM maintainers are.
> 
> This ios mostly fixes.  Look into -ac or Red Hat's kernel 
> tree to find them.
> 
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