Re: the removal of Packard

> [Original Message]
> From: Keith Whitwell <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 3/21/2003 5:30:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [forum] the removal of Packard
>
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Fre, 2003-03-21 at 21:52, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > 
> >>On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 03:30:08PM -0500, G O Economou wrote:
> >>
> >>>>David, you have been out of touch with the project for years and I'm
> >>>
> >>>afraid
> >>>
> >>>>it shows. Red Hat contributed the working Cyrix mediagx driver, four
> >>>>input drivers and various other bits to XFree86 4.3, Red Hat is
working
> >>>>hard with at least one major vendor unused to the open source world to
> >>>
> >>>get 
> >>>
> >>>>support into the next XFree86. Red Hat engineers work on cleaning up
DRI,
> >>>>getting it into the base kernels, chasing corruptions and stopping
vendors
> >>>>from quiting XFree86 work because they are sick of the hassle of
getting
> >>>>stuff into base XFree86.
> >>>
> >>>According to the DRI site, Tungsten Graphics, for which the flunkie
Frank
> >>>spoke
> >>>yesterday does that.  Now Redhat does it.  Seems everyone does it.
> >>
> >>The DRI kernel code Tungsten delivers is usually far from the kernel
> >>standards.  
> > 
> > 
> > You seem to take every oportunity to rant about this. Are you aware that
> > the DRM is trying to share code between different OSs for example,
> > possibly with different standards?
> > 
> > 
> >>Kernel hackers (often from Red Hat) spend significant amounts of time 
> >>to fix it up and still is usually in a far worse shape than other
kernel 
> >>code..
> > 
> > 
> > I find it funny that I rarely if ever see these enhancements on the
> > dri-devel list, where the DRM maintainers are.
>
> Additionally, these changes don't seem to be making it into 2.5, as there
is 
> very little divergence between 2.5 and dri cvs, at least last time I
checked.
>
> Keith

So why don't you go over to the Kernel folks and bother them?  Scared?

Georgina