Re: Re: A Call For Open Governance Of X Development (Egbert Eich)

David Dawes wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 07:19:07PM -0600, Frank LaMonica wrote:
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>>David,
>>You are the President of XFree86.  As I said in my posting: "...it (XFree86) 
>>needs to seriously consider whether or not its management is best suited to 
>>continue into the future.  Only they have the power to make the changes, and I 
>>sincerely hope they will thoughtfully consider ALL options."  That decision is 
>>not mine or anyone else's but the BOD of XFree86.
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> Our BOD that is made up of the community of XFree86 developers who grew
> and became experts.  Our BOD continues to draw from the vast resources
> of the XFree86.  That is the secret to the XFree86 success formula.
> 
> 
>>My posting is NOT an attack on you or on the job you or anyone else on the 
>>XFree86 team have done.  You asked for opinions, and I assumed you wanted honest 
>>remarks.  I have been honest with you and with the group.  I don't know the 
>>details of what has transpired internally at XFree86 to have caused this - and I 
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>  ...
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>>management of that organization would provide a *safe* outlet for people who are 
>>involved with XFree86 to vent their concerns, and to leave it up to the 
>>constituency to make the final call.  There may not be stock holders in XFree86, 
>>but there are quite a few "Stake-holders".  I happen to be one of them, and I 
>>replied to your request for input as a concerned stakeholder.
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> 
> I am glad to hear that!  I presume that "stake-holders" like yourself
> will be willing to put your money where your mouth is in exchange for
> having a say in how XFree86 is run. 
FL-> Are you saying that companies that contribute to XFree86 should be given 
control over the direction taken by the organization?  I am very willing to 
contribute proportionally to XFree86 development, but it is a little unfair that 
TG be asked to absorb more of the cost than other concerned parties who use 
XFree86 technology to earn a living.  TG contributes when and however much it 
can, in addition to contributing to other open source projects, and in addition 
to being one of very few profitable companies whose development efforts are 
released almost exclusively in open source to the community.  I don't think 
there are too many other companies that contribute a proportionate amount of 
their resources to open source technology.


> Maybe as a sign of good faith you
> will be giving me time to work on XFree86 and its releases?  That would
> do a *lot* to help alleviate the resource problems release cycle issues
> that have been identified.  Like I said in a previous message, when I
> worked for VA, releases came out on a regular schedule.  Since then,
> with Tungsten, they have not.  Holding a stake cuts both ways.
FL-> I really dislike being sucked into this type of personal tit-for-tat.  You 
asked for public comment on this situation, and I gave you a suggestion. If you 
want time off to work on XFree86, than ask your manager for it privately.  I 
will not manage TG on a public forum!


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>>If you don't want honest public comments, then please don't ask for them 
>>publicly.  
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> But I do.  And I am glad that we were able to have this discussion in public.
FL-> If that is true, than why did you publicly post the obviously sarcastic 
statement: "Thanks for the support, mate.  Keep it up"?

> 
> David