KDE problem

hi, merry christmas to you to. i'll try to explain this the best that i can. 
KDE doesn't start when i 'startx'. a gui with a few console windows and a 
window for a clock appears. i tried 'startkde' not knowing it was a command 
and KDE started (only while within the gui, not from the shell). so i start 
KDE from the gui, and every component of KDE (ie, the desktop, the taskbar, 
and programs i open like mozilla or a text editor) opens up in a new window 
of the main gui that opens when i 'startx'. it's like running KDE within 
another gui environment. seems very strange to me, and i know that it 
shouldn't happen because at school i use KDE and it loads up automatically 
on startup, or from the shell when i 'startx'. i can probably start a GNOME 
session at the same time (i haven't tried), but i want to get it so it's 
just a KDE session by itself, like the windows gui. the desktop in windows 
is the back most visible component. when i start KDE, the desktop can be 
minimized or killed. i hope i explained the situation well enough. i'm gonna 
send this to the newbie group too, just in case you don't know what's going 
on. but thanks again.






>From: Ernie Schroder <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: "Chris Capaci" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Newbie]xserver sync rate problem
>Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 14:09:08 -0500
>
>On Tuesday 24 December 2002 08:53 pm, a tiny voice in your head compelled 
>you
>to type:
> > ok, thanks a lot. i really hope you don't mind answering all these
> > questions. i'm starting to feel like i'm a pain :) anyway, answer only 
>if
> > you want to. i startx, and the frequencies are fine now. i'm using it 
>right
> > now. i just started kde desktop, but it's not running how i remember it
> > running. it's like every window is a different component...the x server 
>is
> > the main program running and everything, the taskbar (sorry for my 
>windows
> > terminology, but i don't know what it's called in kde) is a different
> > window than the kde desktop, and when i click on the kde desktop it 
>hides
> > the taskbar...and when i open a program, and then go back to the 
>desktop,
> > the whole desktop comes to the front. i use kde at school and it works 
>very
> > similarly to the gui of windows. is there anyway to fix this? thanks a 
>lot.
> >
> > chris
>
>
>Chris,
>	I don't mind at all, I'm glad to help. Sorry that Christmas has delayed my
>answer. I'm afraid that I'm not going to be much help with this one, but 
>I'll
>give you a couple of things to check. First, does the taskbar reappear when
>you move the cursor to the bottom of the screen? If so, you have "auto hide
>enabled. To disable that right click on an empty spot on the taskbar and
>select "preferences-->"hiding" and uncheck the automatic hiding button.
>	If the taskbar is not set to auto hide, there is the possibility that you 
>are
>running a lower resolution than the max and you are seeing a virtual 
>desktop.
>Does the desktop seem to move when you move the cursor to the sides or top 
>or
>bottom of the screen? If so, try the key combination "control+alt+ plus or
>minus (on the number pad with numbers lock enabled) this will cycle through
>the working resolutions. This may enable you to see the whole desktop at
>once. If you see no change, or it seems to try to change resolutions, try
>removing the resolution that isn't working from the XF86Config-4 file.
>Lastly, if none of that solves the problem, log on as root andcreate 
>another
>user, if you haven't done that already. Log on as that user and see if the 
>X
>session behaves normally if so, get back to me and I'll explain the next
>step.
>
>Merry Christmas to you and yours.
>
>--
>Regards, Ernie
>100% Microsoft and Intel free


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