Re: gtk fonts

Thorsten Mika wrote:

[...]

>I think I had a similar problem and this is due to some weirdness in the
>gtkrc-2.0 nomenclature. My gtk-theme-switch2 adds a keyword named
>"gtk-font" or so, which does not affect all GTK-apps, so some fonts are
>still ugly.
>Using the keyword "fontset" cures this. 
>
ah.. good point.. I saw font/fontset in various articles I found online 
and was wondering which was which. And if I should believe any of these 
posts in the first place.. Could not really get hold of an official 
document such as a man page or info manual.. howto, README or FAQ.. that 
describes gtkrc file syntax.. of course this didn't help.

[..]

>>won't even ./configure properly on this sytem.  :-(  Seems it can't
>>find the C++ compiler..??
>>    
>>
>
>Did you install it? What is the exact error message? Can you upload your
>"config.log" somewhere (which has been created in the dir of the source
>you want to compile)? It could help. Furthermore, do 
>  
>
>dpkg -l|grep g++
>dpkg -l| grep gcc
>dpkg -l|grep libqt-dev
>
hehe.. now you mention it.. this must be the first time I tried to run a 
"configure, make, make install" on that Debian system.. Everything that 
lives there was obtained via apt-get's and naturally this would download 
and install binaries.. I did upgrade the kernel to  patched 2.4.27  but 
I used the Debian procedure rather than do a standard kernel compile.  
In any case compiling a kernel has requirements that are quite different 
from that of a gui application. So you've probably hit the nail right on 
the head.  Honestly I had just realized my gtk was badly broken and I 
was contemplating the rather unpleasant prospect of having to download 
Sarge iso images via a dialup connection all over again and reinstalling 
from scratch so I must admit I was pretty disgusted and barely glanced 
at the config.log.

[...]

>>I'm beginning to think this Debian install is broken beyond repair..
>>    
>>
>
>Actually, Debian is absolutely foolproof. 
>
Nothing is absolutely foolproof. Not when *I'm* around.. :-)

But before I scupper this install and start over I think I'll give 
selective removal and reinstall of gtk-related stuff a last chance.. I'm 
thinking there must be a way I can remove all gtk apps and gtk itself 
and nothing else. Initially I was contemplating desperate measures like 
removing the X-server package. That should cause everything gui to be 
removed, including gnome/gtk but also kde/qt and wmaker leaving just my 
base install + custom kernel and the text-mode stuff I use in the 
framebuffer console. Eventually I'll remove KDE from this laptop anyway 
because it's a bit too resource-hungry and uses up too much disk space 
but would I prefer to wait a bit. I would hate to find out that I need 
another quick spin at kcontrol and download those 240Megs all over 
again.. on my dialup connection. But whatever the strategy, what I am 
concerned about is that gtk might be in such a sorry state that its 
removal will not remove everything and let me start afresh as if it had 
never been installed. That on the contrary my "new" install would still 
find remnants from previous attempts leading to another broken install 
and more headaches and frustration.

>But it's hard to make your way around in the beginning :-)
>
yes.. I hear you.. maybe there are just too many different ways of doing 
pretty much the same thing.. the dpkg family, the apt family, dselect, 
not to mention synaptic and a couple of others whose names I have 
forgotten.. it's easy to lose one's way in that jungle. To the newcomer 
there just seem to be dozens of different ways of doing the same thing 
w/o any way of figuring which is best.

>As I said: The "fontset" parameter did the trick for me.
>
>HTH,
>
Oh, definitely.. thank you very much indeed..!

>  t.
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>


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