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Canon PowerShot Digital ElphSD870 IS
Owner Review
by Joe Schaffer

April 15, 2017

TESTER INFORMATION:
NAME: Joe Schaffer
EMAIL: never2muchstuff(AT)yahoo(DOT)com
AGE: 69
GENDER: Male
HEIGHT: 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m)
WEIGHT: 175 lb (79.4 kg)
HOME:=C2=A0 Hayward, California USA

=C2=A0=C2=A0 I frequent California's central Sierras, camping every month w=
ith a goal to match my age in nights out each year; often solo. Summer trip=
s typically last 5 to 10 days; about 5 mi (8 km) per hiking day, starting o=
ff with about 40 lb (18 kg), about half food and water related. I winter ca=
mp most often at 6,000 to 7,000 ft (1,800 to 2,000 m); 2 to 3 nights; 50 lb=
 (23 kg); 1 to 2 mi (1.6 to 3 km) on snowshoes. I've always had a priority =
of comfort, which demands more creativity as the hills seem to keep getting=
 steeper.

The Product:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Manufacturer: Canon USA, Inc.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Web site: https://shop.usa.canon=
.com/shop/en/catalogcamera front
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Product: Elph series digital cam=
era
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Purchased: 2008
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 MSRP: US $329.99

My measures:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 height: 2 3/8 in (6 cm)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 depth: 1 in (2.5 cm)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 width: 3 5/8 in (9.2 cm)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 weight: 6 3/8 oz (180g)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
Comes with:
=C2=A0=C2=A0 8 GB SD card
=C2=A0=C2=A0 battery
=C2=A0=C2=A0 charger
=C2=A0=C2=A0 carry strap
=C2=A0=C2=A0 mini-USB cable
=C2=A0=C2=A0 instructions

Manufacturer Specs & Features:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3.8X optical zoom lens
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 28-105 mm
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 f/2.8-5.8
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 8.0 mega pixels
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 8.3 mega pixel CCD sensor
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3 in (7.6=C2=A0 cm) 230k-pixel LCD
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Digic III processor
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Advanced Face Detection
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Image Stabilizer
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
DESCRIPTION:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If I remember from my smoking youth, this camera is abou=
t the size of a pack of cigarettes, though much heavier. It has a telescopi=
ng lens, a flash and a zoom. There are multiple controls on the right side =
of the camera to make it do things that are not readily apparent. The power=
 button is on top, about the size of a match head and located just left of =
the picture-taking button, which is much larger and somewhat raised. It is =
also surrounded by the zoom actuator, rotated slightly one way or the other=
. And to the left of that is a slide button for switching between movie and=
 still modes. The camera has a very large LCD for the body size, though it =
has no other means to see what is to be photographed. The battery fits into=
 a compartment next to the SD card on the bottom edge; and to the right of =
that is a tapped hole for attachment to a tripod. Nearly hidden in a differ=
ent covered compartment next to the wrist-strap anchor are two output ports=
, a mini-USB and a single-pin. The overall package is quite tidy.

FIELD CONDITIONS:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I've taken this camera on hundreds of days of backpackin=
g, which is the only time I use a camera. On Mt. Shasta my first time I did=
n't keep the camera inside my jacket and it got too cold to work. After an =
hour or so in an inside pocket it fired up again. I've never gotten it very=
 wet and have always tried to keep it shielded from rain. I don't like grit=
, so I haven't been to places like Death Valley, though I have taken it to =
the beach at Pt. Reyes.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I've taken probably 40,000 pictures. Hard to know, becau=
se I take zillions and delete what I don't like. But I've got 25,000 pictur=
es and 2,000 videos on file and most of those would be from this camera.

IMPRESSIONS:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I've been frustrated a few times because I couldn't make=
 it do something I thought it should do. I almost broke down and read direc=
tions, but I didn't go to that extreme or even get rid of it. What has trou=
bled me is closeups of flowers. Sometimes I get what I want; and sometimes =
the background is clear and the flower is fuzzy. I've experimented with a l=
ot of different settings and buttons, but can't seem to figure it out the s=
ecret to a consistent result. On the other hand, even after fiddling with l=
ots of settings I don't know anything about, I've always been able to get t=
he camera restored to taking pictures. I have another camera in my drawer f=
or which that claim cannot be made.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 This camera is not the lightest, but it is the right siz=
e for me. I carry it in a holster on my chest strap next to my GPS. My hand=
s once confused the GPS for the camera getting excited over mama bear comin=
g to check on my business. I almost never drop it and can almost always man=
ipulate the primary settings without having to take my eyes off the rattles=
nake or other point of interest. I've never not been able to take a picture=
 with it. It is hard to hold in one hand and snap off a good one, but I can=
 when I need to hang onto a tree branch or something with one hand and go f=
or the pic with the other.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The LCD is large. I took a while to get used to having n=
o other way to see what I'm framing, but now I think I don't care at all. T=
he LCD did start misbehaving at one point, where I couldn't see anything bu=
t mush holding the camera horizontally, which is how I take most pics. Vert=
ically it still worked. Thinking it was on the fritz I became less obsessiv=
e about caring for it and in that frame of mind I left it on my chest strap=
 one time when taking off my pack. Hoisting the pack back on I forgot the c=
amera was there, and kicked it like a barking dog. It sailed far into the b=
rush, but I found it. It has since displayed a couple of dime-sized voids i=
n the screen, but no more mushy image.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I find that digital cameras can be slow to take a subseq=
uent picture, and that can be annoying. I also don't like that nudging the =
zoom ring makes clicks that get picked up by the audio recorder in movie mo=
de. Of course that the camera will take movies and record sound seems nothi=
ng short of miraculous to me. I carry a spare battery, partly because I won=
't charge one until it is fully exhausted. (Lithium, I know, but I can't he=
lp it.) I don't carry a spare card. Another amazing thing is how much video=
 the card will hold.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Whether the image stabilization works may be more of a g=
uess as I don't know what would happen without it. I do know that even full=
-zoom movies turn out ok, and probably not because my grip is brain-surgeon=
 steady. I like taking stills of the moon, though I haven't patience to fin=
d something to rest the camera--won't carry a tripod, either. I max out the=
 settings and snap away, often getting one that does not look like through =
the bottom of a bottle of Mad Dog.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I know the devices are sensitive to grit. Once a piece o=
f nasty got into the lens extending apparatus and things were sticky for a =
while. But the camera self corrected without being kicked. That was good, b=
ecause a couple more of those voids and I wouldn't be able to see anything =
in the screen.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 My SO has given me two more cameras, but I don't seem to=
 use them. One is too small to handle easily, and somehow I managed to push=
 something that makes it not want to take pictures anymore. The other has a=
 sharp edge around the lens that hangs up coming out of the holster. I seem=
 to be happier with the Elph. It does almost everything I want without maki=
ng me feel stupid.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I'm not trying to take pictures for National Geographic.=
 I just want to point the thing and get an image. Then when I'm old and try=
ing to remember what life was like before diapers, I can look at decent-res=
olution pictures of happier times without having my desktop grunt through h=
igh-pixel images I won't be able to see well anyway.

Quick shots:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 a) compact
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 b) point-and-click
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 c) durable
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 d) suitable-quality pictures & movies
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e) more features than I need
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      <p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15502"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/OWNER%20REVIEWS/OR-Canon%20PowerShot%20870IS-joe%20schaffer/" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15503">http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/OWNER%20REVIEWS/OR-Canon%20PowerShot%20870IS-joe%20schaffer/</a></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15504"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15505"></div><font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15506" size="3">Canon PowerShot Digital ElphSD870 IS<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15507">Owner Review<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15508">by 
 Joe Schaffer<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15509"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15510">April 15, 2017<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15511"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15512">TESTER INFORMATION:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15513">NAME: Joe Schaffer<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15514">EMAIL: never2muchstuff(AT)yahoo(DOT)com<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15515">AGE: 69<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15516">GENDER: Male<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15517">HEIGHT: 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m)<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15518">WEIGHT: 175 lb (79.4 kg)<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15519">HOME:&nbsp; Hayward, California USA<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15520"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14
 92397427942_15521">&nbsp;&nbsp;
 I frequent California's central Sierras, camping every month with a 
goal to match my age in nights out each year; often solo. Summer trips 
typically last 5 to 10 days; about 5 mi (8 km) per hiking day, starting 
off with about 40 lb (18 kg), about half food and water related. I 
winter camp most often at 6,000 to 7,000 ft (1,800 to 2,000 m); 2 to 3 
nights; 50 lb (23 kg); 1 to 2 mi (1.6 to 3 km) on snowshoes. I've always
 had a priority of comfort, which demands more creativity as the hills 
seem to keep getting steeper.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15522"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15523">The Product:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15524">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Manufacturer: Canon USA, Inc.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15525">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Web site: https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalogcamera front<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15526">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Product: Elph series digital camera<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15527">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Purchased: 2008<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15528">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MSRP: US $329.99<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15529"><br id="y
 ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15530">My measures:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15531">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; height: 2 3/8 in (6 cm)<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15532">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; depth: 1 in (2.5 cm)<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15533">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; width: 3 5/8 in (9.2 cm)<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15534">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; weight: 6 3/8 oz (180g)<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15535">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15536">Comes with:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15537">&nbsp;&nbsp; 8 GB SD card<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15538">&nbsp;&nbsp; battery<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15539">&nbsp;&nbsp; charger<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15540">&nbsp;&nbsp; carr
 y strap<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15541">&nbsp;&nbsp; mini-USB cable<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15542">&nbsp;&nbsp; instructions<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15543"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15544">Manufacturer Specs &amp; Features:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15545">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.8X optical zoom lens<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15546">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 28-105 mm<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15547">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; f/2.8-5.8<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15548">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8.0 mega pixels<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15549">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8.3 mega pixel CCD sensor<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15550">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 in (7.6&nbsp; cm) 230k-pixel LCD<br id=
 "yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15551">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Digic III processor<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15552">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Advanced Face Detection<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15553">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Image Stabilizer<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15554">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15555">DESCRIPTION:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15556">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 If I remember from my smoking youth, this camera is about the size of a
 pack of cigarettes, though much heavier. It has a telescoping lens, a 
flash and a zoom. There are multiple controls on the right side of the 
camera to make it do things that are not readily apparent. The power 
button is on top, about the size of a match head and located just left 
of the picture-taking button, which is much larger and somewhat raised. 
It is also surrounded by the zoom actuator, rotated slightly one way or 
the other. And to the left of that is a slide button for switching 
between movie and still modes. The camera has a very large LCD for the 
body size, though it has no other means to see what is to be 
photographed. The battery fits into a compartment next to the SD card on
 the bottom edge; and to the right of that is a tapped hole for 
attachment to a tripod. Nearly hidden in a different covered compartment
 next to the wrist-strap anchor are two output ports, a mini-USB and a 
single-pin. The overall package is quite tidy.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15557"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15558">FIELD CONDITIONS:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15559">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 I've taken this camera on hundreds of days of backpacking, which is the
 only time I use a camera. On Mt. Shasta my first time I didn't keep the
 camera inside my jacket and it got too cold to work. After an hour or 
so in an inside pocket it fired up again. I've never gotten it very wet 
and have always tried to keep it shielded from rain. I don't like grit, 
so I haven't been to places like Death Valley, though I have taken it to
 the beach at Pt. Reyes.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15560">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 I've taken probably 40,000 pictures. Hard to know, because I take 
zillions and delete what I don't like. But I've got 25,000 pictures and 
2,000 videos on file and most of those would be from this camera.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15561"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15562">IMPRESSIONS:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15563">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 I've been frustrated a few times because I couldn't make it do 
something I thought it should do. I almost broke down and read 
directions, but I didn't go to that extreme or even get rid of it. What 
has troubled me is closeups of flowers. Sometimes I get what I want; and
 sometimes the background is clear and the flower is fuzzy. I've 
experimented with a lot of different settings and buttons, but can't 
seem to figure it out the secret to a consistent result. On the other 
hand, even after fiddling with lots of settings I don't know anything 
about, I've always been able to get the camera restored to taking 
pictures. I have another camera in my drawer for which that claim cannot
 be made.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15564">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 This camera is not the lightest, but it is the right size for me. I 
carry it in a holster on my chest strap next to my GPS. My hands once 
confused the GPS for the camera getting excited over mama bear coming to
 check on my business. I almost never drop it and can almost always 
manipulate the primary settings without having to take my eyes off the 
rattlesnake or other point of interest. I've never not been able to take
 a picture with it. It is hard to hold in one hand and snap off a good 
one, but I can when I need to hang onto a tree branch or something with 
one hand and go for the pic with the other.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15565">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 The LCD is large. I took a while to get used to having no other way to 
see what I'm framing, but now I think I don't care at all. The LCD did 
start misbehaving at one point, where I couldn't see anything but mush 
holding the camera horizontally, which is how I take most pics. 
Vertically it still worked. Thinking it was on the fritz I became less 
obsessive about caring for it and in that frame of mind I left it on my 
chest strap one time when taking off my pack. Hoisting the pack back on I
 forgot the camera was there, and kicked it like a barking dog. It 
sailed far into the brush, but I found it. It has since displayed a 
couple of dime-sized voids in the screen, but no more mushy image.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15566">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 I find that digital cameras can be slow to take a subsequent picture, 
and that can be annoying. I also don't like that nudging the zoom ring 
makes clicks that get picked up by the audio recorder in movie mode. Of 
course that the camera will take movies and record sound seems nothing 
short of miraculous to me. I carry a spare battery, partly because I 
won't charge one until it is fully exhausted. (Lithium, I know, but I 
can't help it.) I don't carry a spare card. Another amazing thing is how
 much video the card will hold.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15567">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 Whether the image stabilization works may be more of a guess as I don't
 know what would happen without it. I do know that even full-zoom movies
 turn out ok, and probably not because my grip is brain-surgeon steady. I
 like taking stills of the moon, though I haven't patience to find 
something to rest the camera--won't carry a tripod, either. I max out 
the settings and snap away, often getting one that does not look like 
through the bottom of a bottle of Mad Dog.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15568">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 I know the devices are sensitive to grit. Once a piece of nasty got 
into the lens extending apparatus and things were sticky for a while. 
But the camera self corrected without being kicked. That was good, 
because a couple more of those voids and I wouldn't be able to see 
anything in the screen.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15569">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 My SO has given me two more cameras, but I don't seem to use them. One 
is too small to handle easily, and somehow I managed to push something 
that makes it not want to take pictures anymore. The other has a sharp 
edge around the lens that hangs up coming out of the holster. I seem to 
be happier with the Elph. It does almost everything I want without 
making me feel stupid.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15570">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 I'm not trying to take pictures for National Geographic. I just want to
 point the thing and get an image. Then when I'm old and trying to 
remember what life was like before diapers, I can look at 
decent-resolution pictures of happier times without having my desktop 
grunt through high-pixel images I won't be able to see well anyway.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15571"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15572">Quick shots:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15573">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a) compact<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15574">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b) point-and-click<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15575">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; c) durable<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15576">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; d) suitable-quality pictures &amp; movies<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492397427942_15577">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e) more features than I need</font></div></p>

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