Re: Re: (no subject)
Minda Fraser <frasermusic-/[email protected]> Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
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--1778881473-2117899405-1377706232=:67922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi JDM - Thanks for the awesome thoughts, I enjoyed reading it! Yes there = is quite a bit happening in this hikin' world,FUN!!!=C2=A0 Thanks for the l= inks - I will check them out. -I'm focusing upon a PCT thru hike 2014. I've= never backpacked thru hiked anything. My long distance experience is The G= reat Glen Way in Scotland - which is more of a delightful scenic path, rath= er than a wilderness adventure. It was a lucky time with minimal to ZERO ra= in several days. ---Lucky Lucky for the usually drizzly Scotland! There are= several byways to take for munro bagging but I mostly stuck to the trail a= nd enjoyed the countryside. It was everything I could possibly imagine and = more, as it really opened my mind to long walks in nature. I pretty much wa= lked from small town to small town.=C2=A0 - So this idea of condensing and = compacting to the essentials is a fun challenge! Living in Florida, I have = a lot of experience with brutal heat, mosquitoes, swamps, gators, humidity,= hahaha - all the things that send me packing toward cooler more temperate = climates. I get so tired of staring at palm trees and pink buildings while = melting in this heat. . . .soooo I'm super excited about going west next y= ear! -I will be graduating this December from University of South Florida= . Committing to this thru hike feels almost DIRE, as if I won't have anothe= r shot at just bailing on everything I know to escape for several months. S= o, before big moves or attempts at joining productive members of society, I= will steer my wagons west for the PCT thru hike - and then enjoy section h= iking trails I adore for the rest of my life LOL ----- but I need to thru h= ike something at least once!!! -- I don't know WHY. ..=C2=A0 It somewhat fe= els like when I wanted to run my first half marathon. I just HAD TO. No oth= er reason. heehehee. - So far backpacking light is quite a challenge of tr= ial and error. I'm learning a lot from my mistakes mostly. When the weather= breaks a bit in November, I'm going to head over to Myakka River State Par= k.=C2=A0 http://www.myakkariver.org/index.php There is about 39 miles of l= oop trails with camping. I will do my mega tests on the weekends with my st= uff. I like to be lightweight and easily managed. I'm pretty much ditching = a lot of crap that doesn't have more than one use. lol. Anyway - I appreci= ate this group and all the info on it!! Looking forward to reading more pos= ts. Minda ________________________________ From: Jim Marco <jdm27@corn= ell.edu> To: "[email protected]" <BackpackingLight@yahoogrou= ps.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:54 AM Subject: RE: [Backpacking= Light] Re: (no subject) =C2=A0 Minda, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 No problems, w= e wouldn=E2=80=99t kill the list. Too much archival value. People are alway= s signing up, going through the files/list archives and signing off again. = Ralph is just getting a bit ornery/sarcastic. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There is a = lot going on in the hiking world. 2 speed records broken on the PCT. ZPacks= , Gossamer Gear, and others have all increased pack weights, and, increased= durability. =C2=A0Sort-a something we have been looking for(at least I hav= e=E2=80=A6) A few new tents out there. And other stuff. Will Rietveld/Janet= Reichi rebuilt his site, http://southwestultralight.blogspot.com/ ,excelle= nt if you haven=E2=80=99t been there recently. He also outlined the Summer = OR show.=C2=A0 http://hikelighter.com/ outlined some of the benefits to bre= athable cuben fabric, one of the newer techs. There is lots of stuff out th= ere. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Personally, I have been out along the NPT again, simp= ly because I did a slip on some rocks and broke a couple ribs. I finished, = OK, but it was a bit painful along the second half of the trail. It put a k= ibosh on my plans for the Long Trail. I did some paddling earlier this year= along the Raquette river to Fish Creek Ponds/St. Regis. Caught a lot of fi= sh this spring. Caught a few more last week along the NPT. Did some other p= addling with my daughter later on=E2=80=A6 Did a lot of hiking on the NCT. = But it remains unfinished and indeterminate through the ADK=E2=80=99s. =C2= =A0Storm damage is still a problem along a few trails in NY=E2=80=A6Irene r= eally hammered the North East. =C2=A0Vermont got hit worse. There is too mu= ch to clean up and trails are still closed. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 My 3-season ge= ar is down to about 7-8 pounds. I dropped my 2pound shelter set-up and am u= sing a 14oz tarp exclusively for the past year. =C2=A0I added the Steripen = as a permanent part of my gear after several years of testing. Repackaging = the AM drops into 1/4oz vials as backups. Went through three rock sacks. Wh= y I am picking trees around big rocks is beyond me. =C2=A0I added 15=E2=80= =99 of 1.5mm line to my bear bag kit. I cut my old 2.5mm line down to 30=E2= =80=99. This works well but only saves about 14 grams (smaller rock sack, l= ine changes.) The thicker line doesn=E2=80=99t cut into the tree branch; th= e thin line is plenty strong enough for pulling food up. I ordered a stove = from Roger Caffin. He is selling some nice 3-1/4 ounce remote canister stov= es for winter use, but, they are just right to cover with a Caldera Cone in= creasing fuel efficiency to less than 8g per liter. I figured at 8gm/L, I b= reak even and at 5gm/L, I will save weight. My old SVEA is still going str= ong and is my choice for 1-2 week trips. I hope to replace it with the exte= rnal canister stove, but 32 ounce is two POUNDS. This will save about 7 oun= ces on a two week trip after figuring canister/cone weight=E2=80=A6I hope. = I will be taking two cans to start with on a week out. Trying to get it dow= n to two weeks on two 4oz cans at 2 liters per day. My consumption needs to= be about 6gm/liter or 12gm/day plus priming. =C2=A0I don=E2=80=99t like es= bit, since they leave a mess and don=E2=80=99t boil 31oz in the morning and= evening without a bit of fiddling. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 My thoughts only . .= . =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 jdm =C2=A0 From:BackpackingLight@ya= hoogroups.com [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Minda = Fraser Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:30 AM To: BackpackingLight@yahoog= roups.com Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Re: (no subject) =C2=A0 Please= don't kill me off the list - I am new here and just haven't posted as I en= joy reading others thoughts. That being said - Hi there and nice to meet yo= u =3D) Florida Girl, Minda =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________ = From:Auntie Coosa <coosa1944-/[email protected]> To: "BackpackingLight@yahoogroups= .com" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10= :14 PM Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Re: (no subject) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thin= k it's time to recruit new members -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Coosa Most times when wha= t you expect to happen doesn't, what happens instead is the Good Stuff. =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Always, always, be doing something for which you are willing to = die. =C2=A0Let it truly be said of you: "She died doing what she loved." = =C2=A0I hope to die while in contemplative prayer to the Triune God.=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 This was sent from my iPhone because my Laptop won't fit in m= y pocket =C2=A0 On Aug 27, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Ralph Oborn <Ralph.oborn@gmai= l.com> wrote: =C2=A0 >It's time to kill the list for lack of interest? >= =C2=A0 >On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Allen Quirk <allenq3-xQSgfq/[email protected]= > wrote: >Things have been a little slow on this list recently, but today t= ook the >cake. The list digest was made up of two messages consisting of ne= ither >subject nor content. I hope that means that everybody is out in thei= r >wilderness of choice. > > >------------------------------------ > > >+-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+ >BackpackingLight Mailing List >To un= subscribe, send a blank message to: >BackpackingLight-unsubscribe@yahoogrou= ps.com > >Post messages by E-mailing them to: >BackpackingLight@yahoogroups= .com >+-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+Yahoo! Groups Links > > > =C2= =A0 --1778881473-2117899405-1377706232=:67922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:bookman= old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">Hi JDM - <br>Thanks for= the awesome thoughts, I enjoyed reading it! Yes there is quite a bit happe= ning in this hikin' world,FUN!!! Thanks for the links - I will check = them out.<br>-I'm focusing upon a PCT thru hike 2014. I've never backpacked= thru hiked anything. My long distance experience is The Great Glen Way in = Scotland - which is more of a delightful scenic path, rather than a wildern= ess adventure. It was a lucky time with minimal to ZERO rain several days. = ---Lucky Lucky for the usually drizzly Scotland! There are several byways t= o take for munro bagging but I mostly stuck to the trail and enjoyed the co= untryside. It was everything I could possibly imagine and more, as it reall= y opened my mind to long walks in nature. I pretty much walked from small t= own to small town. - So this idea of condensing and compacting to the essentials is a fun challenge! Living in Florida, I have= a lot of experience with brutal heat, mosquitoes, swamps, gators, humidity= , hahaha - all the things that send me packing toward cooler more temperate= climates. I get so tired of staring at palm trees and pink buildings while= melting in this heat. . . .soooo I'm super excited about going west next y= ear! <br><br>-I will be graduating this December from University of South F= lorida. Committing to this thru hike feels almost DIRE, as if I won't have = another shot at just bailing on everything I know to escape for several mon= ths. So, before big moves or attempts at joining productive members of soci= ety, I will steer my wagons west for the PCT thru hike - and then enjoy sec= tion hiking trails I adore for the rest of my life LOL ----- but I need to = thru hike something at least once!!! -- I don't know WHY. .. It somew= hat feels like when I wanted to run my first half marathon. I just HAD TO. No other reason. heehehee. <br>- So far backpacking light is quite= a challenge of trial and error. I'm learning a lot from my mistakes mostly= . When the weather breaks a bit in November, I'm going to head over to Myak= ka River State Park. http://www.myakkariver.org/index.php <br>There i= s about 39 miles of loop trails with camping. I will do my mega tests on th= e weekends with my stuff. I like to be lightweight and easily managed. I'm = pretty much ditching a lot of crap that doesn't have more than one use. lol= . <br>Anyway - I appreciate this group and all the info on it!! Looking for= ward to reading more posts.<br>Minda<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><b= r></div> <div style=3D"font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, se= rif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york= , times, serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> <font = face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span= ></b> Jim Marco <[email protected]><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bol= d;">To:</span></b> "[email protected]" <BackpackingLight@= yahoogroups.com> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span>= </b> Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:54 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: = bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [BackpackingLight] Re: (no subject)<br> </fo= nt> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv8540550546"> <div> <span> </span> <div id=3D"yiv8540550546ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <div> </div><div class=3D"yiv8540550546WordSection1"> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;">Minda,</span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"> &nbs= p; No problems, we wouldn=E2=80=99t kill the list. = Too much archival value. People are always signing up, going through the fi= les/list archives and signing off again.</span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;">Ralph is just getting a bit ornery/sarcastic. </span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"> &nbs= p; There is a lot going on in the hiking world. 2 s= peed records broken on the PCT. ZPacks, Gossamer Gear, and others have all = increased pack weights, and, increased durability. Sort-a something we have been looking for= (at least I have=E2=80=A6) A few new tents out there. And other stuff. Will= Rietveld/Janet Reichi rebuilt his site, <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://southwestultralight.bl= ogspot.com/">http://southwestultralight.blogspot.com/</a> ,excellent if you= haven=E2=80=99t been there recently. He also outlined the Summer OR show.&= nbsp; <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://hikelighter.com/">http= ://hikelighter.com/</a> outlined some of the benefits to breathable cuben f= abric, one of the newer techs. There is lots of stuff out there. </span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"> &nbs= p; Personally, I have been out along the NPT again,= simply because I did a slip on some rocks and broke a couple ribs. I finis= hed, OK, but it was a bit painful along the second half of the trail. It put a kibosh on my pl= ans for the Long Trail. I did some paddling earlier this year along the Raq= uette river to Fish Creek Ponds/St. Regis. Caught a lot of fish this spring= . Caught a few more last week along the NPT. Did some other paddling with my daughter later on=E2=80=A6 Did a = lot of hiking on the NCT. But it remains unfinished and indeterminate throu= gh the ADK=E2=80=99s. Storm damage is still a problem along a few tra= ils in NY=E2=80=A6Irene really hammered the North East. Vermont got hit worse. There is too much to clean up and trails are still closed. = </span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"> &nbs= p; My 3-season gear is down to about 7-8 pounds. I = dropped my 2pound shelter set-up and am using a 14oz tarp exclusively for t= he past year. I added the Steripen as a permanent part of my gear after several years of t= esting. Repackaging the AM drops into 1/4oz vials as backups. Went through = three rock sacks. Why I am picking trees around big rocks is beyond me. &nb= sp;I added 15=E2=80=99 of 1.5mm line to my bear bag kit. I cut my old 2.5mm line down to 30=E2=80=99. This works well but = only saves about 14 grams (smaller rock sack, line changes.) The thicker li= ne doesn=E2=80=99t cut into the tree branch; the thin line is plenty strong= enough for pulling food up. I ordered a stove from Roger Caffin. He is selling some nice 3-1/4 ounce remote canister stoves f= or winter use, but, they are just right to cover with a Caldera Cone increa= sing fuel efficiency to less than 8g per liter. I figured at 8gm/L, I break= even and at 5gm/L, I will save weight. My old SVEA is still going strong and is my choice for 1-2 week tr= ips. I hope to replace it with the external canister stove, but 32 ounce is= two POUNDS. This will save about 7 ounces on a two week trip after figurin= g canister/cone weight=E2=80=A6I hope. I will be taking two cans to start with on a week out. Trying to get it down= to two weeks on two 4oz cans at 2 liters per day. My consumption needs to = be about 6gm/liter or 12gm/day plus priming. I don=E2=80=99t like esb= it, since they leave a mess and don=E2=80=99t boil 31oz in the morning and evening without a bit of fiddling. </span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"> &nbs= p; My thoughts only . . .</span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"> &nbs= p; &= nbsp; jdm</span></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"> </span></div>=20 <div> <div style=3D"border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;"> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">= From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> BackpackingLight@yahoogr= oups.com [mailto:[email protected]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Minda Fraser<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:30 AM<br> <b>To:</b> [email protected]<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [BackpackingLight] Re: (no subject)</span></div>=20 </div> </div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"> </div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal"><br> <br> <br> </div>=20 <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;">Please don't kill me off the list - I am new here and j= ust haven't posted as I enjoy reading others thoughts. That being said - Hi= there and nice to meet you =3D) Florida Girl,<br> Minda</span></div>=20 <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 </div> <div> <div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center;background= :white;" align=3D"center"> <span style=3D"color:black;"> <hr align=3D"center" size=3D"1" width=3D"100%"> </span></div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><b><span = style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font= -size:10.0pt;color:black;"> Auntie Coosa <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D= "mailto:coosa1944-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:coosa1944@yah= oo.com">coosa1944-/[email protected]</a>><br> <b>To:</b> "<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:BackpackingLight@yahoogro= ups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= >[email protected]</a>" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"m= ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Ba= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> <br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:14 PM<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [BackpackingLight] Re: (no subject)</span><span style= =3D"color:black;"></span></div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 <div id=3D"yiv8540550546"> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 <div id=3D"yiv8540550546ygrp-text"> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;">Think it's time to recruit new members - </span></= div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;">Coosa</span></div>=20 <div> <div style=3D"border-top:dotted #D8D8D8 1.0pt;outline:0px;"> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;vertical-al= ign:baseline;"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;color:black;">Most times whe= n what you expect to happen doesn't, what happens instead is the Good Stuff= . </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;vertical-al= ign:baseline;"><span style=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;vertical-al= ign:baseline;"><i><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;color:black;">Always, alw= ays, be doing something for which you are willing to die. Let it trul= y be said of you: "She died doing what she loved." I hope to die while in contemplative pra= yer to the Triune God. </span></i><span style=3D"color:black;"></span>= </div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;vertical-al= ign:baseline;"><span style=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 </div> </div> </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 </div> <div> <div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;">This was sent from my iPhone because my Laptop won't fi= t in my pocket </span></div>=20 </div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"><br> On Aug 27, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Ralph Oborn <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D= "mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Ralph.oborn= @gmail.com">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</span></div>=20 </div> <blockquote> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 <div id=3D"yiv8540550546ygrp-text"> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;">It's time to kill the list for lack of interest?</span>= </div>=20 </div> <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;"> </span></div>=20 <div> <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;">On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Allen Quirk <<a rel= =3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:allenq3-xQSgfq/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" hr= ef=3D"mailto:allenq3-xQSgfq/[email protected]">allenq3-xQSgfq/[email protected]</a>> wrote:</s= pan></div>=20 <div class=3D"yiv8540550546MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty= le=3D"color:black;">Things have been a little slow on this list recently, b= ut today took the<br> cake. 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