Re: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?!
Kevin Dalley <[email protected]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:10:25 -0700
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On the other hand, when I am on a 2-lane one-way street, I know that a car can pass me without going into a lane going the other direction. The driver may still honk or yell, but I know that the driver *could* just switch lanes and pass me. On 10/15/2012 09:13 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > One-way streets are designed to move more cars faster, even if they're > hobbled to 15mph, that is faster than many bikers ride. Just as with > multiple lane streets- the fastest car sets the speed. One-way streets are > a way of getting multiple lanes where the streets are too narrow, and > frequently involve pedestrian unfriendly intersections when they connect > with a two-way street. They're also not good for transit providers or users > for various reasons. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Emily Thurston > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> My experience with all the one way streets in downtown Portland, Oregon, >> is that they were GREAT for bicycles. They simplify traffic a great deal >> and make it easier for bicycles, which move slower and steer differently >> than the cars, to navigate intersections safely. In particular, turning >> left off a busy street works much better. >> >> I lived in Portland, OR for 9 years as the bicycle traffic tripled from 1% >> of transportation trips to 3% of transportation trips. Bicycling has >> tripled again since I moved to the bay area. The one way streets in and >> around Downtown remain. >> >> One added benefit of one-way streets is that it's easier to get the lights >> timed. In downtown Portland they were timed at 15 mph, which is a great >> speed for cycling. >> >> On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:40 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:15:54 -0700 >>> From: Mike Vandeman <mjvande-yBeKhBN/[email protected]> >>> To: Recipient list suppressed:; >>> Subject: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?! >>> Message-ID: <810347.49699.bm-lZTCTkxaLTf8AbloPCyspULUdxTIq2jXG6kzb5Gsg2M@public.gmane.org> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >>> >>> It's really not rocket science. If there are no one-way streets, one >>> can always get where one wants to go via the shortest route, saving >>> gas and reducing accidents and global warming (assuming that you are >>> one of those dinosaurs still using motor vehicles). Once you >>> introduce one-way streets, you will often have to drive farther than >>> the shortest route. For a simple example, say you are at one end of a >>> one-way street and want to get to somewhere else on that street. >>> >>> While we are on the subject of traffic, have you noticed how many >>> residents have eliminated their off-street parking space, and forced >>> the city to provide them on-street parking at a ridiculously low >>> below-market price? On-street parking -- at least on arterials -- >>> should be eliminated. Instead, those lanes should be for the >>> exclusive use of bicyclists and emergency vehicles. That would >>> provide bicyclists a safe place to ride, and provide ambulances a way >>> to get through when the traffic lanes are full of cars. >>> >>> Then we could solve the homelessness problem by using the parking >>> lane on non-arterials for old cars that no longer run, to be used as >>> housing for the homeless. They could have a safe, dry place to sleep >>> and lock up their belongings. >>> >>> There! The world's major problems solved in only three paragraphs! >>> Now get to work! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ebbc-Talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ebbc.org/listinfo.cgi/ebbc-talk-ebbc.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Ebbc-Talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ebbc.org/listinfo.cgi/ebbc-talk-ebbc.org > _______________________________________________ Ebbc-Talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ebbc.org/listinfo.cgi/ebbc-talk-ebbc.org