Re: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?!

Kevin Dalley <[email protected]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:10:25 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.culture.bicycle.ebbc
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On the other hand, when I am on a 2-lane one-way street, I know that a 
car can pass me without going into a lane going the other direction. 
The driver may still honk or yell, but I know that the driver *could* 
just switch lanes and pass me.

On 10/15/2012 09:13 AM, Mike Jones wrote:
> One-way streets are designed to move more cars faster, even if they're
> hobbled to 15mph, that is faster than many bikers ride. Just as with
> multiple lane streets- the fastest car sets the speed. One-way streets are
> a way of getting multiple lanes where the streets are too narrow, and
> frequently involve pedestrian unfriendly intersections when they connect
> with a two-way street. They're also not good for transit providers or users
> for various reasons.
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Emily Thurston
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> My experience with all the one way streets in downtown Portland, Oregon,
>> is that they were GREAT for bicycles. They simplify traffic a great deal
>> and make it easier for bicycles, which move slower and steer differently
>> than the cars, to navigate intersections safely. In particular, turning
>> left off a busy street works much better.
>>
>> I lived in Portland, OR for 9 years as the bicycle traffic tripled from 1%
>> of transportation trips to 3% of transportation trips. Bicycling has
>> tripled again since I moved to the bay area. The one way streets in and
>> around Downtown remain.
>>
>> One added benefit of one-way streets is that it's easier to get the lights
>> timed. In downtown Portland they were timed at 15 mph, which is a great
>> speed for cycling.
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
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>>> It's really not rocket science. If there are no one-way streets, one
>>> can always get where one wants to go via the shortest route, saving
>>> gas and reducing accidents and global warming (assuming that you are
>>> one of those dinosaurs still using motor vehicles). Once you
>>> introduce one-way streets, you will often have to drive farther than
>>> the shortest route. For a simple example, say you are at one end of a
>>> one-way street and want to get to somewhere else on that street.
>>>
>>> While we are on the subject of traffic, have you noticed how many
>>> residents have eliminated their off-street parking space, and forced
>>> the city to provide them on-street parking at a ridiculously low
>>> below-market price? On-street parking -- at least on arterials --
>>> should be eliminated. Instead, those lanes should be for the
>>> exclusive use of bicyclists and emergency vehicles. That would
>>> provide bicyclists a safe place to ride, and provide ambulances a way
>>> to get through when the traffic lanes are full of cars.
>>>
>>> Then we could solve the homelessness problem by using the parking
>>> lane on non-arterials for old cars that no longer run, to be used as
>>> housing for the homeless. They could have a safe, dry place to sleep
>>> and lock up their belongings.
>>>
>>> There! The world's major problems solved in only three paragraphs!
>>> Now get to work!
>>
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