Re: [Ebbc-Talk] [GPC] Another fatal truck-bicycle right hook collision in SF

One more reason for all cyclists to be equipped with video cameras to document collisions or other traffic situations. More importantly, all cyclists should take cycling road safety classes where safe technique is taught such as proper lane placement when approaching intersections to prevent getting right hooked. The EBBC has offered such classes in the past. I took one of their Road I classes which involved spending the majority of a Saturday in a classroom and on Sunday various riding techniques were taught in a parking lot with an on the road test afterwords similar to a driving test. I wish classes like that were a requirement in grade school.

Zach

On 16 Aug 2013, at 11:03, hicks craig wrote:

> Unfortunately I think much of the time the (possibly dead) cyclist is the only witness.  With a lack of other information, the existing bias is such that the cyclist will always be held responsible.  
> 
> "If the truck driver actually passed the cyclist before turning, or failed to signal the turn, then he is certainly at fault and should be held accountable. "
> This is quite likely what happened to the 20 something male in SF a couple of months ago.  He probably felt in the right (and was) and didn't slow down.  
> 
>> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:12:07 -0700
>> From: johnswanda-/[email protected]
>> To: gpc-talk-LqWVpvOAWH/[email protected]
>> CC: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [GPC] Another fatal truck-bicycle right hook collision in SF
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>> I, and other very experienced cyclists, know not to get caught on the right side of a big truck coming to an intersection. But for less experienced cyclists riding innocently in a bike lane, big truck drivers have to be accountable to avoid this type of accident. Vehicles are required to merge into the bike lane before turning, yielding to bikes already in the bike lane. If the truck is too large to make the turn from the bike lane, then the driver needs to make the turn very carefully and slowly. If the truck driver actually passed the cyclist before turning, or failed to signal the turn, then he is certainly at fault and should be held accountable. 
>> 
>> John Swanda
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>> From: "mickybloom3-/[email protected]" <mickybloom3-/[email protected]>
>> To: Zach Kaplan <[email protected]>; "GPC-talk-LqWVpvOAWH/[email protected] Cyclists" <gpc-talk-LqWVpvOAWH/[email protected]> 
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>> Subject: Re: [GPC] Another fatal truck-bicycle right hook collision in SF
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>> The way out of this is to stay away from those big trucks, since they really cant see you.  While in London a couple of months ago another cyclist was killed by a truck making a turn.
>> 
>> Micky
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Zach Kaplan <[email protected]>
>> To: "GPC-talk-LqWVpvOAWH/[email protected] Cyclists" <gpc-talk-LqWVpvOAWH/[email protected]> 
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>> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:30 AM
>> Subject: [GPC] Another fatal truck-bicycle right hook collision in SF
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>> http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bicyclist-hurt-in-SoMa-crash-with-truck-4731657.php
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