correction Re: China - North Korea and Russia Tripoint

"benofford" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.culture.discuss.boundary-point
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Thanks for that!  I have managed to get the map and Google aligned 
so I have a better understanding of what is where!

I believe there is a train from Vladivostok to Pyongyang - do you 
think that is uses the rail bridge in the image?

This area is of interest to me and I am off to Beijing in October / 
November.  I found a page through Jesper's posting 
(http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/46443/100d9b/) which contains 
information about a place where tourists can temporarily 'jump' into 
North Korea and back - if nobodies looking!  Does anybody know if it 
is really possible?  Or has anybody done it?

Thanks,

Ben
--- In [email protected], aletheia kallos 
<aletheiak@...> wrote:
>
> whooops
> my sydlexia is evidently acting up again
> for i have just realized i got the condominium exactly
> reversed
> & the triline along with it 
> 
> what i meant & should have said is
> facing downstream as usual
> the left half of the river has become the cnkp condo
> & the adjacent right half is still entirely north
> korean territory
> 
> so the triline runs to the center from the left bank 
> rather than from the right bank as misstated below
> & the tripoints at the ends of the triline are
> correspondingly reversed
> cnkpkpru being at midriver & cncnkpru at the left bank
> 
> --- aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...> wrote:
> 
> > welcome ben
> > 
> > we havent been there yet but have collected quite a
> > few pix & maps of the area & markers
> > & even this probably legal description of the
> > trijunction
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/12459
> > which we have studied carefully
> > & so can probably say this much at this point about
> > your findings
> > 
> > the google depiction of the tripoint
> > like practically all google boundary overlays
> > which are routinely hundreds of meters off line
> > is in this case substantially mistaken also
> > just as you rightly suspected
> > 
> > the cnkp border does indeed follow the river 
> > just as you also surmise
> > down to within a couple hundred meters of the
> > railroad
> > bridge
> > more as less as prefigured on this old map
> >
> http://sunsite.berkeley.edu:8085/korea/200k/11-52-17.jpg
> > but it seems that tho the left half of the river is
> > still china 
> > the right half is now held in common by china &
> > north
> > korea as a condominium or joint zone
> > 
> > so instead of a tripoint we believe there is
> > actually
> > a triline there
> > just above the bridge
> > extending from the right bank to the exact middle of
> > the river
> > 
> > & at each end of this cnkp condominial triline is a
> > tripoint of sorts also 
> > namely a cnkp kp ru tripoint on the right bank 
> > & a cn cnkp ru tripoint in the middle
> > 
> > i hope thats clear
> > 
> > we can provide more particulars or exactitude if
> > wanted
> > 
> > --- benofford <benofford@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I have found with interest (on Google earth) the
> > > North Korea, Russia 
> > > and China tripoint - one that I would imagine is
> > > rather difficult to 
> > > visit!
> > > 
> > > Here you can see where google puts the tripoint. I
> > > would imagine that 
> > > the North Korean frontier follows the river;
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/photos/view/fa19?b=1
> > > 
> > > Here, is a shot looking over the North Korean
> > border
> > > town, you can see 
> > > a railway yard and buildings near by.  Also you
> > can
> > > see what might
> > >  appear to be a Chinese border wall.
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/photos/view/fa19?b=2
> > > 
> > > And finally a border bridge (rail I think)
> > > connecting Russia and North 
> > > Korea.
> > > 
> > > The Google Earth co-ordinates are 42 degrees
> > > 25'27.10" North and 130 
> > > degrees 36'51.94 East.
> > > 
> > > So - has anybody ever been there or near?  What do
> > > you all think?
> > 
> > 
> > 
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